Hey Eric,

Long time, what's happening? When's your device coming out?

take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.

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On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> >#1 - This was probably been cut & pasted from the G1 literature without
> any thought when the PR guys were told "we're going to release an
> Android 'phone like the G1".
>
> This clearly shows that they have NOT idea what they are talking
> about............typical chinese company behavior....
> AND they hardware is nowhere near completion if they can't get their
> spec correct!!!!
>
> >#2 - The formats may not be supported by existing Android
> implementations, but if Kogans R&D guys have integrated a AV library
> such as PacketCore and a player such as VLC then it's possible these
> are
> features which will be available on the Kogan 'phone, again this
> doesn't
> seem to be a fundamental blocker to it's existance.
>
> Our developer have been trying very hard to do EXACTLY this, so far no
> success...........
> Any pointers how we can implement do VLC type of codec support on
> Android?
>
> >MicroSD supports upto 16GB
> You need SDHC microSD to have 16GB, normal standard microSD card would
> only go to 4GB.
> If they didn't say it is SDHC compatible, it is safe to assume it
> isn't.
>
> >#4 - Everyone knows that product release dates tend to slip, and my
> guess is the PR department are trying to ride the Android buzz (and
> they
> seem to be doing a pretty good job of it at the moment), so again I
> don't see the reason why the Kogan 'phone can't exist because of
> this.
>
> Well, I didn't say it doesn't exist. I just believe that what they
> have released publicly doesn't correspond to what they would deliver
> in the end. Hence, I expect to see many complains to their incorrect
> spec.
>
> Re: muthu
> I agree that developers are safer to buy Google's developer edition of
> G1 than Kogan's......
>
>
> Eric
> Portable Electronics Ltd
> www.hdmp4.com
>
> On Dec 6, 8:32 pm, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > #1 - This was probably been cut & pasted from the G1 literature without
> > any thought when the PR guys were told "we're going to release an
> > Android 'phone like the G1".
> >
> > #2 - The formats may not be supported by existing Android
> > implementations, but if Kogans R&D guys have integrated a AV library
> > such as PacketCore and a player such as VLC then it's possible these are
> > features which will be available on the Kogan 'phone, again this doesn't
> > seem to be a fundamental blocker to it's existance.
> >
> > #3 - My guess is this is another typo, it probably should be "256MB
> > On-board RAM + 128MB Flash". The G1 only has 192MB of RAM, and 128MB is
> > plausable for a boot image.  MicroSD supports upto 16GB and provides a
> > reasonable speed for browsing photos & music, so why do you see this as
> > a reason that the 'phone can't exist?
> >
> > #4 - Everyone knows that product release dates tend to slip, and my
> > guess is the PR department are trying to ride the Android buzz (and they
> > seem to be doing a pretty good job of it at the moment), so again I
> > don't see the reason why the Kogan 'phone can't exist because of this.
> >
> > I still don't see how you can say the specification "is complete
> > rubbish". So it's got a couple of typos, theres some tech that it
> > possible but not yet available, and they've hit some shipping delays. I
> > still beleive that the device could ship in Jan and we may see it happen.
> >
> > Now if there's someone from Kogan listening maybe they could give some
> > more definitive answers....
> >
> > Al.http://andappstore.com./
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> > > Well, there are two main category that does sound correct to me.
> >
> > > 1st
> > > Google Mobile Functions
> > > Google Search ™, Gmail ™, YouTube ™, Google Maps ™, Google Talk ™,
> > > Google Calendar ™.
> >
> > > There aren't any Gmail, Youtube, Gtalk nor Calendar apk that come
> > > along with the SDK, so where do we get that from?
> > > (I have been wondering for a long time how/where can we get these apk
> > > to use on our Android device.......since they are not provided by
> > > default.)
> >
> > > 2nd
> > > Video formats supported:
> > > MPEG2 H263, H264, MPEG4, AVI
> >
> > > I don't think Android support these formats by default either and
> > > there aren't any video player included by default. So these aren't
> > > exactly correct.
> >
> > > "Media Libraries - based on PacketVideo's OpenCORE; the libraries
> > > support playback and recording of many popular audio and video
> > > formats, as well as static image files, including MPEG4, H.264, MP3,
> > > AAC, AMR, JPG, and PNG"
> > >http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html
> >
> > > Last time I tried playing any video using a player build on Android's
> > > media player, no video really plays except 3gp files. So, I don't know
> > > exactly what MPEG4 or H.264 would Android work on......because all the
> > > mpeg4 encoded avi doesn't seems to play nor files with mp4 extension.
> >
> > > 3rd
> > > Memory
> > > 256 MB On-board + 128 MB Flash
> >
> > > I just spotted another mistake.........is this 256MB ram + 128MB
> > > flash? or 256MB flash + 128MB flash?  256MB flash + 128MB ram????
> > > Either way, it is way too small since everyone knows we can't install
> > > apk on SD cards yet!!! nor in the short to medium term...............
> >
> > > microSD™ card expansion slot
> > > Doesn't support SDHC? so what's the point?
> >
> > > Personally, I would avoid Kogan and G1 until they fix this mess or a
> > > better alternative is out.
> >
> > > 4th
> > > for those ordering NOW, remember Kogan previously said it will be
> > > available by Christmas? but now they say dispatch by end of
> > > January.....
> > > Do you think they are actually able to supply the unit by then?
> > > I wonder......since not even a single photo of the ACTUAL unit is seen
> > > YET......all they have is computer drawn graphics........(We have had
> > > a mock-up of the such photo for many months now, although we have not
> > > release it to the public because the product is not ready yet...)
> >
> > > Please correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > > Eric
> > > Portable Electronics Ltd
> > >www.hdmp4.com
> >
> > > On Dec 5, 7:44 pm, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> I read through it and found it to be a pefectly plausable spec.
> >
> > >> Given you're producing your own Android device, maybe you could share
> > >> you wisdom as to what you think is rubbish?
> >
> > >> Al.
> >
> > >> Eric wrote:
> >
> > >>> Anyone noticed Kogan's Android mobile specification is complete
> > >>> rubbish?
> > >>> as it is obviously NOT correct?
> >
> > >>> I am waiting to see huge amount of complains coming through about the
> > >>> "incorrect" specifications and features claimed......lol
> >
> > >>> Eric
> > >>> Portable Electronics Ltd
> > >>>www.hdmp4.com
> >
> > >>> On Dec 5, 5:29 am, Zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>> just placed my order as well. not exactly the form i prefer
> > >>>> (i like slide out keyboards) but given the fact that  1 aud ~ 0,5 €
> > >>>> this is a bargain.
> >
> > >>>> On Dec 4, 3:21 am, Steve Oldmeadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> Ordered mine this morning.  It looks like a Blackberry Bold clone
> > >>>>> running Android.
> >
>

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