Very unfortunately I don't think I can do much about it. If the cupcake Home can be adapted to compile in a 1.0 environment (probably not against the 1.0 SDK, but retrofitted against a 1.0 source tree), and renamed so that it doesn't conflict with the built-in one in the G1, it might be possible to actually run it onto a G1.
>From that point, you could do changes in that local hybrid environment, test them on your device, and when you're ready for upstream submission cherry-pick them back into a clean "master" repository, test them in the emulator, and repo upload them. JBQ On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > The $471.53 cost of getting an ADP1 is the stumbling block for me > (espicially as I already have a UK G1). > > If you could do something about that JBQ then I'm sure a lot of people > would suddenly love you :). > > Al. > > Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: >> BTW, anyone can contribute to such optimizations. Get an ADP1, grab >> the android source code, head over to the android-platform mailing >> list, and optimize away. >> >> JBQ (trying hard to make sure that it's possible for anyone to >> contribute code to android). >> >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sounds like HTC used an MLC flash module... bummer :(. >>> >>> Tell the guy working on the Home screen to minimise writes wherever >>> possible. That includes stripping out logging, separate preference >>> settings, etc., etc., etc. >>> >>> Lets hope the next device uses something less focused on cost and more >>> focused on performance (especially since I was recently able to buy a >>> 1GB SLC flash based SD Card for about 10 USD a from Amazon, so it's not >>> a huge cost increase for a distinctly noticeable speed increase ). >>> >>> Al. >>> >>> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: >>> >>>> I know that the author of Home has been under lots of pressure to make >>>> it start as quickly as he possibly could, because startup time has >>>> consistently been a visible issue. >>>> >>>> At this point, the only know option is... apps on SD card (no >>>> kidding), since the limiting factor when launching Home is the I/O >>>> speed, and the G1's internal flash is unbelievably slow. >>>> >>>> JBQ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Never said that was a good fix. But - unless i'm wrong? - there is little >>>>> to >>>>> no pressure to make it work right now, and the way to get that is by >>>>> making >>>>> tmob aware that their customers actually care. Or so R. told me (I'm not >>>>> going to throw him under the bus here, if he wants his name published as >>>>> the >>>>> author thats up to him :) ..) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Of course, pinning Home in RAM will mean that the RAM in question >>>>>> won't be available to other apps (including the browser), so you'll >>>>>> see a lot more of "my background services got interrupted" and "my >>>>>> browser ran out of memory and closed". >>>>>> >>>>>> Home used to be pinned in RAM, and dogfooding found that the user >>>>>> experience was worse in that case. >>>>>> >>>>>> JBQ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Its not a race condition, unless by "race condition between two threads" >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> mean "the device gets low on memory and kills all the background apps, >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> home takes forever to start up again". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are a tmob customer, you -need- to call 611 and ask/complain >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> this. Currently, its "behaving as expected" at 10 seconds (yes, its >>>>>>> proven >>>>>>> that 15 is not unusual, but I'm told the requirements were 10 or less) >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> until the carrier leans on google its going to stay that way. (And they >>>>>>> don't care about the lists, irc, etc. They care about calls into their >>>>>>> support center.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, pilkro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have not. But I've just recently done a factory reset. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't want to have to pull the battery every time I browse the web, >>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 12:34 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 62 that's heading for a record I think.... Have you done the battery >>>>>>>>> pull trick? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Al. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pilkro wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Every time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I have 62 installed Market Apps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 12:27 pm, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David Turner wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes, this is a known issue. I believe that the problem has been >>>>>>>>>>>> identified (race condition between two threads) and that a fix in >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good to know...but race conditions usually aren't that consistent. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pilkro: Do you get the 5-15 second delay *every* time or >>>>>>>>>>> occasionally? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't see this problem on my G1, and if it were widespread, I'd >>>>>>>>>>> expect >>>>>>>>>>> there would be many more complaints about this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com >>>>>>>>>>> _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0 >>>>>>>>>>> Published! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ====== >>>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >>>>>>>>> company number 6741909. 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