Always with the apps on sd.. when will you guys be quiet about that? .. no, wait, thats not right. You're at google. YOU are the one who is supposed to say that :)
Anyway.. yah. Hopefully either increased resources or the community will step up. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> wrote: > > I know that the author of Home has been under lots of pressure to make > it start as quickly as he possibly could, because startup time has > consistently been a visible issue. > > At this point, the only know option is... apps on SD card (no > kidding), since the limiting factor when launching Home is the I/O > speed, and the G1's internal flash is unbelievably slow. > > JBQ > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Never said that was a good fix. But - unless i'm wrong? - there is little > to > > no pressure to make it work right now, and the way to get that is by > making > > tmob aware that their customers actually care. Or so R. told me (I'm not > > going to throw him under the bus here, if he wants his name published as > the > > author thats up to him :) ..) > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Of course, pinning Home in RAM will mean that the RAM in question > >> won't be available to other apps (including the browser), so you'll > >> see a lot more of "my background services got interrupted" and "my > >> browser ran out of memory and closed". > >> > >> Home used to be pinned in RAM, and dogfooding found that the user > >> experience was worse in that case. > >> > >> JBQ > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Its not a race condition, unless by "race condition between two > threads" > >> > you > >> > mean "the device gets low on memory and kills all the background apps, > >> > then > >> > home takes forever to start up again". > >> > > >> > If you are a tmob customer, you -need- to call 611 and ask/complain > >> > about > >> > this. Currently, its "behaving as expected" at 10 seconds (yes, its > >> > proven > >> > that 15 is not unusual, but I'm told the requirements were 10 or less) > >> > and > >> > until the carrier leans on google its going to stay that way. (And > they > >> > don't care about the lists, irc, etc. They care about calls into their > >> > support center.) > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, pilkro <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Have not. But I've just recently done a factory reset. > >> >> > >> >> I don't want to have to pull the battery every time I browse the web, > >> >> though. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Jan 14, 12:34 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > 62 that's heading for a record I think.... Have you done the > battery > >> >> > pull trick? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ( > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... > >> >> > > >> >> > Al. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > pilkro wrote: > >> >> > > Every time. > >> >> > > >> >> > > FWIW, I have 62 installed Market Apps. > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Jan 14, 12:27 pm, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > >> David Turner wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> yes, this is a known issue. I believe that the problem has been > >> >> > >>> identified (race condition between two threads) and that a fix > in > >> >> > >>> on > >> >> > >>> the > >> >> > >>> way. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> Good to know...but race conditions usually aren't that > consistent. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> pilkro: Do you get the 5-15 second delay *every* time or > >> >> > >> occasionally? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> I don't see this problem on my G1, and if it were widespread, > I'd > >> >> > >> expect > >> >> > >> there would be many more complaints about this. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> -- > >> >> > >> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com > >> >> > >> _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0 > >> >> > >> Published! > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > ====== > >> >> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >> >> > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >> >> > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > >> >> > > >> >> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >> >> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or > it's > >> >> > subsidiaries. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > >> Android Engineer, Google. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > Android Engineer, Google. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
