You can do something about that. Revert to root, install the testkeys recovery image and a modified adp1 image (JF's) or the modified dev bootloader and you can fastboot the official adp1 images.
(All the docs etc are on my site, I can provide the links if you want but .. yah. there would be more link-text than normal text :) .. http://andblogs.net) On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > The $471.53 cost of getting an ADP1 is the stumbling block for me > (espicially as I already have a UK G1). > > If you could do something about that JBQ then I'm sure a lot of people > would suddenly love you :). > > Al. > > Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: > > BTW, anyone can contribute to such optimizations. Get an ADP1, grab > > the android source code, head over to the android-platform mailing > > list, and optimize away. > > > > JBQ (trying hard to make sure that it's possible for anyone to > > contribute code to android). > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Sounds like HTC used an MLC flash module... bummer :(. > >> > >> Tell the guy working on the Home screen to minimise writes wherever > >> possible. That includes stripping out logging, separate preference > >> settings, etc., etc., etc. > >> > >> Lets hope the next device uses something less focused on cost and more > >> focused on performance (especially since I was recently able to buy a > >> 1GB SLC flash based SD Card for about 10 USD a from Amazon, so it's not > >> a huge cost increase for a distinctly noticeable speed increase ). > >> > >> Al. > >> > >> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: > >> > >>> I know that the author of Home has been under lots of pressure to make > >>> it start as quickly as he possibly could, because startup time has > >>> consistently been a visible issue. > >>> > >>> At this point, the only know option is... apps on SD card (no > >>> kidding), since the limiting factor when launching Home is the I/O > >>> speed, and the G1's internal flash is unbelievably slow. > >>> > >>> JBQ > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Never said that was a good fix. But - unless i'm wrong? - there is > little to > >>>> no pressure to make it work right now, and the way to get that is by > making > >>>> tmob aware that their customers actually care. Or so R. told me (I'm > not > >>>> going to throw him under the bus here, if he wants his name published > as the > >>>> author thats up to him :) ..) > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Of course, pinning Home in RAM will mean that the RAM in question > >>>>> won't be available to other apps (including the browser), so you'll > >>>>> see a lot more of "my background services got interrupted" and "my > >>>>> browser ran out of memory and closed". > >>>>> > >>>>> Home used to be pinned in RAM, and dogfooding found that the user > >>>>> experience was worse in that case. > >>>>> > >>>>> JBQ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Disconnect <[email protected] > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Its not a race condition, unless by "race condition between two > threads" > >>>>>> you > >>>>>> mean "the device gets low on memory and kills all the background > apps, > >>>>>> then > >>>>>> home takes forever to start up again". > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you are a tmob customer, you -need- to call 611 and ask/complain > >>>>>> about > >>>>>> this. Currently, its "behaving as expected" at 10 seconds (yes, its > >>>>>> proven > >>>>>> that 15 is not unusual, but I'm told the requirements were 10 or > less) > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> until the carrier leans on google its going to stay that way. (And > they > >>>>>> don't care about the lists, irc, etc. They care about calls into > their > >>>>>> support center.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, pilkro <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Have not. But I've just recently done a factory reset. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't want to have to pull the battery every time I browse the > web, > >>>>>>> though. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 12:34 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 62 that's heading for a record I think.... Have you done the > battery > >>>>>>>> pull trick? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ( > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Al. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pilkro wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Every time. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> FWIW, I have 62 installed Market Apps. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 12:27 pm, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> David Turner wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> yes, this is a known issue. I believe that the problem has been > >>>>>>>>>>> identified (race condition between two threads) and that a fix > in > >>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> way. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Good to know...but race conditions usually aren't that > consistent. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> pilkro: Do you get the 5-15 second delay *every* time or > >>>>>>>>>> occasionally? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I don't see this problem on my G1, and if it were widespread, > I'd > >>>>>>>>>> expect > >>>>>>>>>> there would be many more complaints about this. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com > >>>>>>>>>> _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0 > >>>>>>>>>> Published! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> ====== > >>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>>>>>>> company number 6741909. 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