I know that the author of Home has been under lots of pressure to make
it start as quickly as he possibly could, because startup time has
consistently been a visible issue.

At this point, the only know option is... apps on SD card (no
kidding), since the limiting factor when launching Home is the I/O
speed, and the G1's internal flash is unbelievably slow.

JBQ

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> wrote:
> Never said that was a good fix. But - unless i'm wrong? - there is little to
> no pressure to make it work right now, and the way to get that is by making
> tmob aware that their customers actually care. Or so R. told me (I'm not
> going to throw him under the bus here, if he wants his name published as the
> author thats up to him :) ..)
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Of course, pinning Home in RAM will mean that the RAM in question
>> won't be available to other apps (including the browser), so you'll
>> see a lot more of "my background services got interrupted" and "my
>> browser ran out of memory and closed".
>>
>> Home used to be pinned in RAM, and dogfooding found that the user
>> experience was worse in that case.
>>
>> JBQ
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Its not a race condition, unless by "race condition between two threads"
>> > you
>> > mean "the device gets low on memory and kills all the background apps,
>> > then
>> > home takes forever to start up again".
>> >
>> > If you are a tmob customer, you -need- to call 611 and ask/complain
>> > about
>> > this. Currently, its "behaving as expected" at 10 seconds (yes, its
>> > proven
>> > that 15 is not unusual, but I'm told the requirements were 10 or less)
>> > and
>> > until the carrier leans on google its going to stay that way.  (And they
>> > don't care about the lists, irc, etc. They care about calls into their
>> > support center.)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, pilkro <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Have not.  But I've just recently done a factory reset.
>> >>
>> >> I don't want to have to pull the battery every time I browse the web,
>> >> though.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 14, 12:34 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > 62 that's heading for a record I think.... Have you done the battery
>> >> > pull trick?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > (http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa...
>> >> >
>> >> > Al.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > pilkro wrote:
>> >> > > Every time.
>> >> >
>> >> > > FWIW, I have 62 installed Market Apps.
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Jan 14, 12:27 pm, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >> David Turner wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >>> yes, this is a known issue. I believe that the problem has been
>> >> > >>> identified (race condition between two threads) and that a fix in
>> >> > >>> on
>> >> > >>> the
>> >> > >>> way.
>> >> >
>> >> > >> Good to know...but race conditions usually aren't that consistent.
>> >> >
>> >> > >> pilkro: Do you get the 5-15 second delay *every* time or
>> >> > >> occasionally?
>> >> >
>> >> > >> I don't see this problem on my G1, and if it were widespread, I'd
>> >> > >> expect
>> >> > >> there would be many more complaints about this.
>> >> >
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com
>> >> > >> _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0
>> >> > >> Published!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> >
>> >> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> >> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>> >> > subsidiaries.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
>> Android Engineer, Google.
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>



-- 
Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Android Engineer, Google.

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