How about all the proprietary bits delivered inside framework.jar? You can't get much more "in the framework" than that.
And again, the tmobile versions are a different animal - they are even less open, in that none of them have associated sources. (Yes, you could probably make quite a lot of trouble by insisting on actual as-built gpl sources for things like the kernel and bluez. I'm not recommending it, but..) Google's definition of "the platform" is circular - if its open source, its the platform. By that token, you could claim that just about anything is open source because you can usually get some source for parts, and anything else isn't "product". Also, the OP said "the software". Realistically, "the software" is not in fact open, and handwaving isn't going to change that. (The master/cupcake release might change it, if its properly tagged in repo, but..) On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:56 PM, MrSnowflake <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Even the open source trees (master and cupcake) are missing much of what > > people consider "android". (Everything from market to contact sync to > > youtube is closed source, plus all the various hw drivers and such.) > So, the os isn't open because some apps are propietary? That's not > fair. The OS itself is open and T-Mobile just delivers some special > apps (Market, Maps, ...) with it, because it's "by Google". They are > not part of the Android platform in any way, that's why they aren't in > the git/repo repository. > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Marco P. <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > The software is open-source so i guess you don't argue on the > > > 'openness' of that. > > > If you want a really open/unlocked phone just buy an ADP1-G1! > > > > > I'm using it in Switzerland and Italy with a pre-paid SIM (no data > > > plan or stuff like that) > > > Works fine (except for some quirks when roaming..) > > > 3G works fine too in both countries, not that i used it much after > > > activating the phone! > > > > > Your should direct your complaints to T-Mobile, not Google or Android > > > > > M > > > > > On Mar 13, 2:22 pm, jbraun <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don’t know about you, but I feel very disappointed with G1. I > bought > > > > it because, being related to Google, I would enjoy a really open > > > > framework. Now, I realize that 3G only works in the 1700/2100 > > > > frequencies, which is basically compatible with just one carrier in > > > > the whole world. On top of that, I can’t use the paid Market, so > > > > effectively unable to enjoy the benefit of thousands of developers > > > > working on productivity or entertainment applications for, obviously, > > > > a monetary retribution. In fact many of the best free applications > are > > > > now paid. > > > > And people complaint that the iphone was blocked. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
