Guys, this is ridiculous.  Android, like Linux, is a completely open
source OS, and we are all running variants of it, with pieces of
preinstalled software of varying openness and licenses. All the
different RC updates are packaged for a specific client (T-Mobile),
for their customer base.

Also, it gets said all the time on this list, but again: the G1 isn't
Android.  The Android codebase is a pure abstraction, whereas the G1
is a specific implementation of it, and is full of compromises (like a
closed-source Market app, and not having root access).  The developer
phone has far fewer compromises, but even that has at least one (no
access to copy-protected paid apps).

If you want a phone with no compromises, start a phone manufacturing
company and make one.  Thanks to Android, it's a whole lot easier to
do exactly that.

-- Eric

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Muthu Ramadoss
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Anything not opensource and not part of android must be yanked out of the
> android website and must be part of the particular implemetation like g1, g2
> etc.,
>
> On Mar 18, 2009 1:30 AM, "Eric Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Well this reasoning has been brought up numerous times but I think it
> is quite lame. Visit android.com. More specifically visit
> http://www.android.com/about/videos.html#category=peeks
>
> Here you can see an "Android" phone boasting about features that
> AREN'T android. This would be like going to Microsoft's website for
> WindowsXP and having it boast about the features of the paid version
> of Microsoft Office.
>
> If they aren't going to make these bits of code a part of Android,
> they shouldn't show them off on any OHA or android.com website. They
> should only be on T-Mobile's website for why you should buy a G1. And
> they shouldn't be bragging about how there isn't a googlephone there
> are many googlephones. Since it looks like the hardware doesn't exist
> and if it did exist, wouldn't even have the full boasted software
> stack.
>
> They want to eat their cake and have it too. "Android has all these
> great features.. They just aren't actually provided"
>
> On Mar 15, 11:56 am, MrSnowflake <[email protected]> wrote: > > Even the
> open source trees (mas...
>
> >
>

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