Am Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:36:45 +0100
schrieb Sean Hodges <[email protected]>:

> 
> Peli, Andreas,
> 
> Those of us in the UK have the same problem. If you haven't already
> seen it, here is the current solution that Google have offered:
> 
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=57912f7eefae2e5f&hl=en
> 
> The subject title refers only to the U.K. but this issue actually
> refers to most countries outside of the U.S.
> 
> I think it might be time to consolidate these issues into a single bug
> report, and see if we can determine a solution that works for all
> countries planning to use the market.
> 
> What are your thoughts?

1.) UK Maestro is basically "account withdrawal", that's why it's
limited to UK cards ;)

2.) This market segmentation thing (offer other stuff at different
pricepoints even, and different payment options, to different
countries) is completely broken by design. Hint: In the EU (and in
general, but generally it can be slightly harder) it's quite possible to
be resident in more than one country. That's a general observation,
e.g. the implementation of AmazonMP3 (especially the G1 client) makes
one shudder. In my practice that means, I've got German cards, I've got
Austrian cards, I've got DSL-to-DSL VPNs so I can switch "IP adress
nationality" by accessing the sites from the correct flat, as needed.

3.) If Google Checkout is meant to be competive, they need to address
the local market conditions, and for Germany and Austria, 

4.) While I'm not 100% sure about the UK Maestro thing, but the
explanation that you cannot charge foreign currencies to a UK Maestro
card sounds bogus. Hint: Take your UK Maestro card, hop on the train to
Paris, buy yourself a French croissant, pay with your Maestro card, and
you'll get an EUR charge on your UK Maestro card. Better yet, if you
can deal with the DHS bs, hop on a plane, go to an ATM in NewYork,
withdraw money, and again you'll get an USD charge on the card. That's
at least how DE/AT/CH Maestro cards work. Naturally, the alternate
explanation is that this aggressive stance of paying a croissant in
Paris with an UK Maestro card persuaded the French to switch to GBP as
currency.

4b) It's possible that if they implement UK Maestro by withdrawal from
the account that they can only withdraw GBP amounts. Hint, that's why
there are exchange rates.

5.) Google is quite aware of the facts, e.g. Google Adwords in Germany
DOES offer "Lastschriftverkehr", which would be the more common method
for online payments, at least compared to Credit cards.

Andreas

> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Peli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > While we as German developers can not sell our applications yet
> > through Market :-( , I can confirm that credit cards are not as
> > wide- spread here as in the US.
> >
> > Many electronic shops (like MediaMarkt or Saturn) and even
> > McDonald's don't accept credit cards in most places (except, e.g.
> > at the airport), and many people don't have a credit card, since a
> > bank card is sufficient in most situations.
> >
> > It is one of the reasons why PayPal is more successful here than
> > Google Checkout.
> >
> > Peli
> >
> > On Apr 6, 12:13 am, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi Andreas,
> >>
> >> Your answer about the CC confirms what i've been experiencing, that
> >> having CC as the only payment option is a barrier, especially in
> >> Europe.
> >>
> >> I asked my initial question because i saw a big difference in
> >> buying patterns from customers from USA, UK and Germany. US make
> >> up about 90%. UK about 10%. Germany 0%, so far. I was wondering if
> >> i was the only one who saw very low (or no) sales from customers
> >> from Germany.
> >>
> >> On Apr 5, 5:30 pm, Andreas Kostyrka <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Philosophically, I see three classes of users here:
> >> > 1) people that are rubik fans => these will buy
> >> > 2) people indifferent to the topic => why should these buys,
> >> > enough free entertainment is there. 3) people that dislike
> >> > rubiks.
> >>
> >> > I do not think that there will be to many people in class 1,
> >> > class 2 will probably be biggest, but that's my guestimate,
> >> > which might be influenced that I'm in class 3 :)
> >>
> >> > But I've played a tester here, and was stopped when the Market
> >> > asked my CC.
> >>
> >> > Two observations:
> >> > -) my CC is in my wallet in my office at the other end of the
> >> > flat, -) Google checkout offered me only CC. Important options
> >> > like paying by checking account are missing.
> >>
> >> > To summerize, at least for me, I haven't yet seen an app that is
> >> > worth the hassle, sorry.
> >>
> >> > Andreas
> >>
> >> > Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> hat geschrieben:
> >>
> >> > >My app is "The Gube"
> >>
> >> > >On Apr 5, 4:55 pm, Andreas Kostyrka <[email protected]>
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> Am Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:39:29 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > >> schrieb Streets Of Boston <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >> > >> > Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> > >> > I localized my app for Germany, but I'm wondering: Where
> >> > >> > are they? When the UK got access to paid apps on Android
> >> > >> > Market, immediately i got a number of sales from the UK.
> >> > >> > I have not had one sale yet from Germany.
> >>
> >> > >> Well, what is your app? Personally I have not yet seen one
> >> > >> app that would be worth the hassle.
> >>
> >> > >> Andreas
> >>
> >> > >> > What are your experiences?- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > Sent from my Android phone with K-9. Please excuse my brevity.-
> >> > Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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