That license only applies when you have the binary already. So "prove you
legally acquired the binary" is a legitimate question. (And "oops I didn't
see your email yesterday" covers the 24h return period as well. The GPL
doesn't require you to be instantly available 24/7.)

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> As far as I know he can't demand to see payment before handing over the
> source code.
>
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL;
>
> "The distribution rights granted by the GPL for modified versions of the
> work are not unconditional. When someone distributes a GPL'd work plus
> their
> own modifications, the requirements for distributing the whole work cannot
> be any greater than the requirements that are in the GPL."
>
> So due to the original Doom source code being freely distributable and
> usable the author can't add on the requirement that I pay for the
> application.
>
> Al.
>
> ---
>
> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
>
> ======
> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges
> Sent: 15 April 2009 14:16
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics
>
>
> Rapidshare? :)
>
> The developer is allowed to sell GPL software, he just has to provide the
> source code to the people that have the application. With that in mind, he
> may demand proof of payment before giving you his latest source code.
>
> I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much work to take a recent Linux port of the
> Doom engine (like PRBoom) and modify the code to use Android compatible
> libraries. The interesting bit would be getting the native C engine working
> in an APK. I'm not sure how that is done, perhaps someone else might be
> able
> to shed some light on it?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Any way you know of getting the APK without paying the $3.99?
> >
> > Al.
> > ---
> >
> > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
> >
> > ======
> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> > company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> > 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >
> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> > subsidiaries.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges
> > Sent: 15 April 2009 12:55
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics
> >
> >
> > Ah, I see :) Well it may not be available on-line. If not, you should
> > request it directly from the developer by email (the GPL only demands
> > that the source is made available on request). I'd be interested in
> > how you get on obtaining the source, as I might ask for a copy myself.
> >
> > It's worth checking the contents of the Doom APK file as well, the
> > source code may have been bundled in the archive.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think you missed my point :), The GPL means the source of the
> >> *Android
> >> port* needs to be available. If it is it'd be a great project for
> >> potential game devs to cut their teeth on.
> >>
> >> Al.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
> >>
> >> ======
> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> >> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> >> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >>
> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> >> subsidiaries.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges
> >> Sent: 15 April 2009 12:09
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics
> >>
> >>
> >> Al,
> >>
> >> The source code is available on id's FTP server:
> >>
> >> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/
> >>
> >> As I said, this excludes the game data, as that is still under a
> >> commercial licence.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_source_port indicates the Doom
> >>> source code is GPLed which means that the source should be freely
> >> available.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone seen it?
> >>>
> >>> Al.
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
> >>>
> >>> ======
> >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> >>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> >>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >>>
> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> >>> subsidiaries.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges
> >>> Sent: 15 April 2009 11:23
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't see why not, ethically... Assuming he/she ported it,
> >>> packaged it, and paid for the market account to publish it. The
> >>> textures and game data are not covered by the GPL license I believe,
> >>> so he may need permission from id Software to sell that (don't take
> >>> my
> > word on that).
> >>>
> >>> Of course, whether it's a popular decision with the target audience
> >>> is a different issue altogether :) Also, someone else could legally
> >>> package Doom and distribute on the market for free, effectively
> >>> stealing the customer base.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What do people think of the developer selling his Android port of
> >>>> the shareware version of Doom for $3.99 on Market?
> >>>>
> >>>> Al.
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>
> >>>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
> >>>>
> >>>> ======
> >>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> >>>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> >>>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >>>>
> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
> >>>> it's subsidiaries.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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