GPL covers redistribution - if you don't have the new bins, nobody has distributed it, and it does not apply.
(That, indirectly, leads to one of ESR & co's big complaints - I can create a webapp under the gpl and never, ever release sources unless I distribute the app. To pick on our hosts :) google groups could be entirely based on GPL software, and until/unless they bundle it in an appliance or something, we'd never even know much less be able to get code.) On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > Does it?, I'm not required to have the binary in order to get the > original source code, so wouldn't it be an additional requirement (i.e. > against the GPL), to say I need it for the Android port? > > Al. > > --- > > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Disconnect > *Sent:* 15 April 2009 15:03 > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics > > That license only applies when you have the binary already. So "prove you > legally acquired the binary" is a legitimate question. (And "oops I didn't > see your email yesterday" covers the 24h return period as well. The GPL > doesn't require you to be instantly available 24/7.) > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> As far as I know he can't demand to see payment before handing over the >> source code. >> >> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL; >> >> "The distribution rights granted by the GPL for modified versions of the >> work are not unconditional. When someone distributes a GPL'd work plus >> their >> own modifications, the requirements for distributing the whole work cannot >> be any greater than the requirements that are in the GPL." >> >> So due to the original Doom source code being freely distributable and >> usable the author can't add on the requirement that I pay for the >> application. >> >> Al. >> >> --- >> >> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >> >> ====== >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> subsidiaries. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges >> Sent: 15 April 2009 14:16 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics >> >> >> Rapidshare? :) >> >> The developer is allowed to sell GPL software, he just has to provide the >> source code to the people that have the application. With that in mind, he >> may demand proof of payment before giving you his latest source code. >> >> I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much work to take a recent Linux port of >> the >> Doom engine (like PRBoom) and modify the code to use Android compatible >> libraries. The interesting bit would be getting the native C engine >> working >> in an APK. I'm not sure how that is done, perhaps someone else might be >> able >> to shed some light on it? >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Any way you know of getting the APK without paying the $3.99? >> > >> > Al. >> > --- >> > >> > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >> > >> > ====== >> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> > >> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> > subsidiaries. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges >> > Sent: 15 April 2009 12:55 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics >> > >> > >> > Ah, I see :) Well it may not be available on-line. If not, you should >> > request it directly from the developer by email (the GPL only demands >> > that the source is made available on request). I'd be interested in >> > how you get on obtaining the source, as I might ask for a copy myself. >> > >> > It's worth checking the contents of the Doom APK file as well, the >> > source code may have been bundled in the archive. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I think you missed my point :), The GPL means the source of the >> >> *Android >> >> port* needs to be available. If it is it'd be a great project for >> >> potential game devs to cut their teeth on. >> >> >> >> Al. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> >> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >> >> >> >> ====== >> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> >> subsidiaries. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges >> >> Sent: 15 April 2009 12:09 >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics >> >> >> >> >> >> Al, >> >> >> >> The source code is available on id's FTP server: >> >> >> >> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/ >> >> >> >> As I said, this excludes the game data, as that is still under a >> >> commercial licence. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_source_port indicates the Doom >> >>> source code is GPLed which means that the source should be freely >> >> available. >> >>> >> >>> Has anyone seen it? >> >>> >> >>> Al. >> >>> --- >> >>> >> >>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >> >>> >> >>> ====== >> >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> >>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> >>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >>> >> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> >>> subsidiaries. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: [email protected] >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Hodges >> >>> Sent: 15 April 2009 11:23 >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer Ethics >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I don't see why not, ethically... Assuming he/she ported it, >> >>> packaged it, and paid for the market account to publish it. The >> >>> textures and game data are not covered by the GPL license I believe, >> >>> so he may need permission from id Software to sell that (don't take >> >>> my >> > word on that). >> >>> >> >>> Of course, whether it's a popular decision with the target audience >> >>> is a different issue altogether :) Also, someone else could legally >> >>> package Doom and distribute on the market for free, effectively >> >>> stealing the customer base. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> What do people think of the developer selling his Android port of >> >>>> the shareware version of Doom for $3.99 on Market? >> >>>> >> >>>> Al. >> >>>> >> >>>> --- >> >>>> >> >>>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >> >>>> >> >>>> ====== >> >>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> >>>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> >>>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >>>> >> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or >> >>>> it's subsidiaries. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
