It doesn't take a year to send a C&D letter. As soon as the first ROM was made by any developer Google had enough evidence to send a C&D letter. Google is not a small company. They have the money and lawyers to have dealt with this as soon as someone used one of their owned apps. I think they just waited to see how big this thing got. As far as how do I know it's been a yr? Well when did developers start making roms? When did the G1 come out? About a yr ago.
On Sep 30, 9:33 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > Just because you don't read it doesn't mean it isn't binding. > And yes, I always read it. And understand it. > Why a year? > How do you know it was a year? > Maybe they C&D's Jesusfreke as well. Ever wonder WHY he quit? > Maybe others haven't been around long enough to bother with. It TAKES > TIME for the legal machinery to crank. > Maybe it was all OK until the new and at-the-time-unreleased market > app (it has now been released since 1.6 is now officially out on real > devices - ADP1) got into it. > > On Sep 29, 10:20 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Why did the take a yr to do this? > > Why not come off the bat and mention it? > > A lot of fine print is meant to drag and confuse people. > > DId you read the whole fine print in your credit card, cable tv, > > android phone, pc/mac OS? > > > On Sep 29, 9:35 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That is only the case if you *DON'T READ*. > > > > Android is android -- see OHA, AOSP. > > > "With Google" means "With Google" -- see Google. > > > > When you sync with AOSP repo, the closed source "with google" stuff is > > > NOT THERE. > > > > The licenses are ALL included IN YOUR PHONE. Settings/About/Licenses. > > > Read them. Didn't know they were there? Your own fault for not > > > looking! > > > > On Sep 28, 6:40 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It's not really that. Is that they provide android and the "with > > > > Google" experience yet they do not differentiate between both. Then a > > > > year later they provide the most recognized developer with a C&D > > > > letter. > > > > And who is to say this will stop? > > > > > On Sep 28, 5:12 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > This is nothing more than a minor change in procedure. The end results > > > > > are no difference EXCEPT that the lawyers will be happy. > > > > > > Read. > > > > > Think. > > > > > > The only reason people are "pissed off" is that they are too dumb to > > > > > read and understand what is going on. > > > > > > On Sep 26, 3:17 am, W <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well said. This is firing a bullet right into your own toes. No > > > > > > one > > > > > > is disputing Google's legal right to do this. It's about how > > > > > > fundamentally stupid it is to piss off your most ardent and > > > > > > technically savvy supporters. Unless Google reverses course here, > > > > > > the > > > > > > next few plays are pretty straightforward-- (1) cyanogen and other > > > > > > developers move to another platform (sucking air, advocacy, and > > > > > > momentum from Android's adoption) or (2) a serious effort gets > > > > > > underway to replace the proprietary .apks/apis with true open-source > > > > > > replacements-- a map app that uses openstreetmap (with > > > > > > turn-by-turn), > > > > > > a better IMAP client for gmail, an alternative market app like > > > > > > andappstore, etc. Eventually the IP-unencumbered alternatives will > > > > > > be > > > > > > as good or better than Google's offerings, and what will Google have > > > > > > gained? This is how it's worked with open-source since the > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > of time. > > > > > > > It is strategically unwise for Google to publicly advocate FOSS > > > > > > development, build an entire platform on FOSS codebase, promote FOSS > > > > > > philosophy to win market share and mindshare, then take a massive > > > > > > dump > > > > > > all over their burgeoning development community and fan base. (and > > > > > > if > > > > > > you don't think that's what's happened, read the comments on xda- > > > > > > developers, android blogs, or most of the Google apps in the Market) > > > > > > > W > > > > > > > On Sep 24, 8:08 pm, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > This is one of the stupidest moves I've seen a company do in a > > > > > > > while. > > > > > > > First, wait til an organic community developer group forms around > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > product, wait til they release improved version of your free OS, > > > > > > > let them > > > > > > > hype it to death for you... then C&D them out of existence until > > > > > > > they all go > > > > > > > tinker with Maemo or Linmo (or iPhone or Web OS) devices. > > > > > > > > It doesn't matter if Google, Inc are legally correct, this is a > > > > > > > boneheaded > > > > > > > business decision. > > > > > > > > -Josh > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM, schwiz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > So everytime I have seen someone ask about apps2sd for android, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > response has been something along the lines of 'well if you > > > > > > > > don't like > > > > > > > > the space on the phone modify it yourself if its that easy' > > > > > > > > Someone > > > > > > > > takes this to heart and does it for free for thousands of users > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > are already supporting google and you shut them down? Now we > > > > > > > > have to > > > > > > > > pick between having space for apps on our phone -OR- not having > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > marketplace on our phone anymore so it doesn't even matter? I > > > > > > > > highly > > > > > > > > suggest if you are going to C&D cyanogen to give users who > > > > > > > > have PAID > > > > > > > > for a 'powered by google' android device to backup their google > > > > > > > > apps > > > > > > > > that they paid for. We have paid for the software we should be > > > > > > > > entitled to use it with any build of android we choose. > > > > > > > > Otherwise, > > > > > > > > you might want to try taking user requests a little more > > > > > > > > seriously. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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