right on dan thank you for the explanation we dont host any apps on our site which is probably why many ppl have tried to shut us down oddly enough none where developers. anyway what apps have you created ? so we can give you a cut of proceeds if we have some on our app list. we do not want to take money away from developers we really would like to have them make apps that are exclusive to our site(future plan for site) those apps would be 100% profit for the developer. in turn would make our site that much better. i know that google check out takes 30% for apps sold in the market so posting apps on our site i think would make more money for developers.in the future as we grow and android community grows. let me know what you think. same goes for any developers. if we have to pull every app off our list to get devs on board with us then we will. we want you guys on our side if at all possible.more plans for the future are to contact every dev that we list an app from and get the ok to host it right on our site or remove it . we do not want money for your apps just a place for people to get them other than the market we can make money off other stuff like ads products tech support ect. contact [email protected] for more info.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Dan Sherman <[email protected]> wrote: > I personally don't have any real issue with my apps up there, just pointing > out that you shouldn't use Bittorrent as an example as to why it's legit. > You're talking about two very different protocols. One just says "Yeah, the > file is available, and here's some various people that have different pieces > of it, you go get it from them", the other however, says "Here's a > copyrighted file, and I'm personally making it available for you to take, > right here, right now". > > By hosting it on your site, you are personally infringing (if you knew that > the item in question was copyrighted, which you obviously do). If you > hosted .torrent files (which are just further links), you wouldn't be > infringing (which has been held up in court in most cases). > > Another analogy would be Bittorrent trackers are very much like search > engines, they don't personally have the data you want, they just show you > where to get it. If that material is illegal, that site is responsible, not > the search engine for showing you who has it. > > Like you said, they're available in other places (bt, other sites). For > your own personal liability, you'd be far better off linking to those > places, and not hosting copyrighted information yourself... > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:27 PM, killabeetle <[email protected]>wrote: > >> O.k. first let me say that i or androidplayground did not steal any apps >> period they are all available on other sites not just androidplayground. >> Bittorrent anyone hear of it ? just to name one. Second prank my phone all >> you like haven't got one yet not like i cant look you up after doing so and >> harass the hell out of you too. test me........ don't think *67 will help >> you either. maybe you should report bit torrent and the 100's of other >> sites you can get android applications from. second if some one uploads an >> application to said site well isn't that the same as someone buying a book >> then giving it to a friend or better yet say i donate that book to the >> salvation army they can turn around and sell it. that book is copy written >> and the author wont make jack off of that sale will he ? hell maybe they >> should just post instructions how to copy protected and unprotected apps and >> let people just buy copy and refund themselves any app they like. Like none >> of you have ever burned a cd or movie please. >> '' Well the barrier is low but nevertheless only 10% will use these >> > > sites. If we would have got a good working micro payment in >> > > combination with high quality apps we would not have to worry about >> > > people "stealing" our apps. I dont care about people pirating my apps >> > > it just means that my application is successful.'' thank you whom ever >> wrote this >> 100% true. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Streets Of Boston < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Wow! killabeetle, do you think that by *stealing* developers creations >>> you are helping them? Why don't you let the developers decide for >>> themselves if they want to have their apps on certain web-sites. >>> >>> E.g. i have my app on handango.com. People who don't have access to >>> the Android Market can go there and download it. The thing is, >>> *Handango* did not put my app onto their web-site. *I* put it onto >>> their web-site. >>> >>> What you do is like going into a book-store, steal a whole bunch of >>> books and start selling them (giving them away) from your own shop. >>> When the bookstore comes after you, are you going to say "You >>> bookstore is so far away. It's much easier for the people around here >>> to buy them from me. Heck, it may even increase your sales if they >>> really like the books" >>> >>> This just doesn't make any sense. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 7, 8:24 am, killabeetle <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Any developer who wants there app taken off the list just simply has >>> > to ask and it will be pulled. >>> > they are only trying to better the android community as the android >>> > market is not available to everyone >>> > and not for nothing but that site will make more sales for developers. >>> > If some one tries an app and they like it well then there gonna buy it >>> > if its available to them so they can get support and updates for said >>> > application. >>> > applications are only one aspect of said website. They are even >>> > willing to share profits with developers having your apps in more than >>> > one place only promotes your apps even further. They do not crack >>> > protected apps easy as it is to do so they are strictly against such >>> > actions. If you would like to speak to someone from that site contact >>> > me [email protected] before you go and post someones addy on >>> > the web and pranking someones phone only shows your true intelligence >>> > as this does nothing but waste both party's time and energy. so grow >>> > up and be a man/woman and contact them directly if you have a problem >>> > with there site. >>> > >>> > On Oct 5, 11:51 am, flotr_user <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Well the barrier is low but nevertheless only 10% will use these >>> > > sites. If we would have got a good working micro payment in >>> > > combination with high quality apps we would not have to worry about >>> > > people "stealing" our apps. I dont care about people pirating my apps >>> > > it just means that my application is successful. >>> > >>> > > I don't like to introduce DRM and will always keep my applications >>> DRM >>> > > free. Why does the music industry remove DRM, why does Adobe remove >>> > > DRM/copy protection from CS4 on MacOSX? Trust your users and do not >>> > > treat them like criminals. >>> > >>> > > PS: Please speed up the SlideMe website in Germany. It is so damn >>> > > slow. :-) >>> > >>> > > On 5 Okt., 17:42, Shane Isbell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > And you know the barrier to cracking these apps is insanely low >>> when you >>> > > > have sites like these popping up:http://www.androidplayground.net/ >>> > >>> > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Mike Hearn < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > On the iPhone Kali seems to have been pretty effective. It uses >>> lots >>> > > > > of tricks that you can't pull off in Java though. >>> > >>> > > > > On the PS3/Xbox the DRM for online distributed apps is >>> unbeatable. >>> > >>> > > > > So there is potential to solve this problem, with a sufficiently >>> good >>> > > > > system. A few apps will get cracked but the trick is, if it takes >>> a >>> > > > > lot of effort to crack a single app, you're still ahead over the >>> > > > > default Android system where rooting your phone gives you access >>> to >>> > > > > everything. >>> > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > Shane Isbell (Co-founder of SlideME - The Original Market for >>> Android)http://twitter.com/sisbellhttp://twitter.com/slideme- Hide >>> quoted text - >>> > >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
