Like I said, I'm not worried about my apps being up there, it's not really an issue for me, however, I was under the impression that you were offering the items for download, but you are only offering links to the downloads (in other places)?
- Dan On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:02 PM, killabeetle <[email protected]>wrote: > right on dan thank you for the explanation we dont host any apps on our > site which is probably why many ppl have tried to shut us down > oddly enough none where developers. anyway what apps have you created ? so > we can give you a cut of proceeds if we have some on our app list. we do not > want to take money away from developers we really would like to have them > make apps that are exclusive to our site(future plan for site) those apps > would be 100% profit for the developer. in turn would make our site that > much better. i know that google check out takes 30% for apps sold in the > market so posting apps on our site i think would make more money for > developers.in the future as we grow and android community grows. let me > know what you think. same goes for any developers. if we have to pull every > app off our list to get devs on board with us then we will. we want you guys > on our side if at all possible.more plans for the future are to contact > every dev that we list an app from and get the ok to host it right on our > site or remove it . we do not want money for your apps just a place for > people to get them other than the market we can make money off other stuff > like ads products tech support ect. > contact [email protected] for more info. > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Dan Sherman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I personally don't have any real issue with my apps up there, just >> pointing out that you shouldn't use Bittorrent as an example as to why it's >> legit. You're talking about two very different protocols. One just says >> "Yeah, the file is available, and here's some various people that have >> different pieces of it, you go get it from them", the other however, says >> "Here's a copyrighted file, and I'm personally making it available for you >> to take, right here, right now". >> >> By hosting it on your site, you are personally infringing (if you knew >> that the item in question was copyrighted, which you obviously do). If you >> hosted .torrent files (which are just further links), you wouldn't be >> infringing (which has been held up in court in most cases). >> >> Another analogy would be Bittorrent trackers are very much like search >> engines, they don't personally have the data you want, they just show you >> where to get it. If that material is illegal, that site is responsible, not >> the search engine for showing you who has it. >> >> Like you said, they're available in other places (bt, other sites). For >> your own personal liability, you'd be far better off linking to those >> places, and not hosting copyrighted information yourself... >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:27 PM, killabeetle <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> O.k. first let me say that i or androidplayground did not steal any apps >>> period they are all available on other sites not just androidplayground. >>> Bittorrent anyone hear of it ? just to name one. Second prank my phone all >>> you like haven't got one yet not like i cant look you up after doing so and >>> harass the hell out of you too. test me........ don't think *67 will help >>> you either. maybe you should report bit torrent and the 100's of other >>> sites you can get android applications from. second if some one uploads an >>> application to said site well isn't that the same as someone buying a book >>> then giving it to a friend or better yet say i donate that book to the >>> salvation army they can turn around and sell it. that book is copy written >>> and the author wont make jack off of that sale will he ? hell maybe they >>> should just post instructions how to copy protected and unprotected apps and >>> let people just buy copy and refund themselves any app they like. Like none >>> of you have ever burned a cd or movie please. >>> '' Well the barrier is low but nevertheless only 10% will use these >>> > > sites. If we would have got a good working micro payment in >>> > > combination with high quality apps we would not have to worry about >>> > > people "stealing" our apps. I dont care about people pirating my apps >>> > > it just means that my application is successful.'' thank >>> you whom ever wrote this >>> 100% true. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Streets Of Boston < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Wow! killabeetle, do you think that by *stealing* developers creations >>>> you are helping them? Why don't you let the developers decide for >>>> themselves if they want to have their apps on certain web-sites. >>>> >>>> E.g. i have my app on handango.com. People who don't have access to >>>> the Android Market can go there and download it. The thing is, >>>> *Handango* did not put my app onto their web-site. *I* put it onto >>>> their web-site. >>>> >>>> What you do is like going into a book-store, steal a whole bunch of >>>> books and start selling them (giving them away) from your own shop. >>>> When the bookstore comes after you, are you going to say "You >>>> bookstore is so far away. It's much easier for the people around here >>>> to buy them from me. Heck, it may even increase your sales if they >>>> really like the books" >>>> >>>> This just doesn't make any sense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 7, 8:24 am, killabeetle <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Any developer who wants there app taken off the list just simply has >>>> > to ask and it will be pulled. >>>> > they are only trying to better the android community as the android >>>> > market is not available to everyone >>>> > and not for nothing but that site will make more sales for developers. >>>> > If some one tries an app and they like it well then there gonna buy it >>>> > if its available to them so they can get support and updates for said >>>> > application. >>>> > applications are only one aspect of said website. They are even >>>> > willing to share profits with developers having your apps in more than >>>> > one place only promotes your apps even further. They do not crack >>>> > protected apps easy as it is to do so they are strictly against such >>>> > actions. If you would like to speak to someone from that site contact >>>> > me [email protected] before you go and post someones addy on >>>> > the web and pranking someones phone only shows your true intelligence >>>> > as this does nothing but waste both party's time and energy. so grow >>>> > up and be a man/woman and contact them directly if you have a problem >>>> > with there site. >>>> > >>>> > On Oct 5, 11:51 am, flotr_user <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > Well the barrier is low but nevertheless only 10% will use these >>>> > > sites. If we would have got a good working micro payment in >>>> > > combination with high quality apps we would not have to worry about >>>> > > people "stealing" our apps. I dont care about people pirating my >>>> apps >>>> > > it just means that my application is successful. >>>> > >>>> > > I don't like to introduce DRM and will always keep my applications >>>> DRM >>>> > > free. Why does the music industry remove DRM, why does Adobe remove >>>> > > DRM/copy protection from CS4 on MacOSX? Trust your users and do not >>>> > > treat them like criminals. >>>> > >>>> > > PS: Please speed up the SlideMe website in Germany. It is so damn >>>> > > slow. :-) >>>> > >>>> > > On 5 Okt., 17:42, Shane Isbell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > And you know the barrier to cracking these apps is insanely low >>>> when you >>>> > > > have sites like these popping up: >>>> http://www.androidplayground.net/ >>>> > >>>> > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Mike Hearn < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > > On the iPhone Kali seems to have been pretty effective. It uses >>>> lots >>>> > > > > of tricks that you can't pull off in Java though. >>>> > >>>> > > > > On the PS3/Xbox the DRM for online distributed apps is >>>> unbeatable. >>>> > >>>> > > > > So there is potential to solve this problem, with a sufficiently >>>> good >>>> > > > > system. A few apps will get cracked but the trick is, if it >>>> takes a >>>> > > > > lot of effort to crack a single app, you're still ahead over the >>>> > > > > default Android system where rooting your phone gives you access >>>> to >>>> > > > > everything. >>>> > >>>> > > > -- >>>> > > > Shane Isbell (Co-founder of SlideME - The Original Market for >>>> Android)http://twitter.com/sisbellhttp://twitter.com/slideme- Hide >>>> quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
