Firstly, Just because someone sells cheap watches claiming their  
rolexes it doesn't mean it's OK for you to do so. That's like saying  
that it's OK for you to steal someones TV because you know someone  
else who steals TVs.

Secondly your analogy misses a big point. A book is not easily copied,  
so you are passing a physical object to someone else and you no longer  
have possession of it and only one person can use it at a time. With  
software a copy means that you can retain the original copy and the  
person your passing it to also has a copy, therefore multiple people  
can use the software simultaneously which only one person has paid  
for. So for a book the single use per sale holds, with software it  
doesn't.

Al.
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On 7 Oct 2009, at 21:27, killabeetle wrote:

> O.k. first let me say that i or androidplayground did not steal any  
> apps period they are all available on other sites not just  
> androidplayground. Bittorrent anyone hear of it ? just to name one.  
> Second prank my phone all you like haven't got one yet not like i  
> cant look you up after doing so and harass the hell out of you too.  
> test me........ don't think *67 will help you either.
> maybe you should report bit torrent and the 100's of other sites you  
> can get android applications from. second if some one uploads an  
> application to said site well isn't that the same as someone buying  
> a book then giving it to a friend or better yet say i donate that  
> book to the salvation army they can turn around and sell it. that  
> book is copy written and the author wont make jack off of that sale  
> will he ? hell maybe they should just post instructions how to copy  
> protected and unprotected apps and let people just buy copy and  
> refund themselves any app they like. Like none of you have ever  
> burned a cd or movie please.
> '' Well the barrier is low but nevertheless only 10% will use these
> > > sites. If we would have got a good working micro payment in
> > > combination with high quality apps we would not have to worry  
> about
> > > people "stealing" our apps. I dont care about people pirating my  
> apps
> > > it just means that my application is successful.'' thank you  
> whom ever wrote this
> 100% true.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Streets Of Boston <[email protected] 
> > wrote:
>
> Wow! killabeetle, do you think that by *stealing* developers creations
> you are helping them? Why don't you let the developers decide for
> themselves if they want to have their apps on certain web-sites.
>
> E.g. i have my app on handango.com. People who don't have access to
> the Android Market can go there and download it. The thing is,
> *Handango* did not put my app onto their web-site. *I* put it onto
> their web-site.
>
> What you do is like going into a book-store, steal a whole bunch of
> books and start selling them (giving them away) from your own shop.
> When the bookstore comes after you, are you going to say "You
> bookstore is so far away. It's much easier for the people around here
> to buy them from me. Heck, it may even increase your sales if they
> really like the books"
>
> This just doesn't make any sense.
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 8:24 am, killabeetle <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Any developer who wants there app taken off the list just simply has
> > to ask and it will be pulled.
> > they are only trying to better the android community as the android
> > market is not available to everyone
> > and not for nothing but that site will make more sales for  
> developers.
> > If some one tries an app and they like it well then there gonna  
> buy it
> > if its available to them so they can get support and updates for  
> said
> > application.
> > applications are only one aspect of said website. They are even
> > willing to share profits with developers having your apps in more  
> than
> > one place only promotes your apps even further. They do not crack
> > protected apps easy as it is to do so they are strictly against such
> > actions. If you would like to speak to someone from that site  
> contact
> > me [email protected] before you go and post someones addy on
> > the web and pranking someones phone only shows your true  
> intelligence
> > as this does nothing but waste both party's time and energy. so grow
> > up and be a man/woman and contact them directly if you have a  
> problem
> > with there site.
> >
> > On Oct 5, 11:51 am, flotr_user <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Well the barrier is low but nevertheless only 10% will use these
> > > sites. If we would have got a good working micro payment in
> > > combination with high quality apps we would not have to worry  
> about
> > > people "stealing" our apps. I dont care about people pirating my  
> apps
> > > it just means that my application is successful.
> >
> > > I don't like to introduce DRM and will always keep my  
> applications DRM
> > > free. Why does the music industry remove DRM, why does Adobe  
> remove
> > > DRM/copy protection from CS4 on MacOSX? Trust your users and do  
> not
> > > treat them like criminals.
> >
> > > PS: Please speed up the SlideMe website in Germany. It is so damn
> > > slow. :-)
> >
> > > On 5 Okt., 17:42, Shane Isbell <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > And you know the barrier to cracking these apps is insanely  
> low when you
> > > > have sites like these popping up:http:// 
> www.androidplayground.net/
> >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Mike Hearn  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On the iPhone Kali seems to have been pretty effective. It  
> uses lots
> > > > > of tricks that you can't pull off in Java though.
> >
> > > > > On the PS3/Xbox the DRM for online distributed apps is  
> unbeatable.
> >
> > > > > So there is potential to solve this problem, with a  
> sufficiently good
> > > > > system. A few apps will get cracked but the trick is, if it  
> takes a
> > > > > lot of effort to crack a single app, you're still ahead over  
> the
> > > > > default Android system where rooting your phone gives you  
> access to
> > > > > everything.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Shane Isbell (Co-founder of SlideME - The Original Market for  
> Android)http://twitter.com/sisbellhttp://twitter.com/slideme- Hide  
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> >


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