On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Shane,
>
> Basically we're focused on anything that developers, OEMs, and users want
> :).
>
> If we get requests from developers we'll act on them where possible, but we
> try not to re-invent the wheel so where there are existing solutions for a
> problem (e.g. Flurry for user/device/usage analytics and AdMob for in-app
> advertising) we'll point developers at those instead of providing our own
> offering so we can focus on the areas where functionality is missing (e.g.
> allowing developers to query our transaction database from within their app
> to help combat piracy).
>
> I wish you all the best with ZappMarket, but I hope you can build it on
> positive PR.  I'm sure every market operator knows of things that are wrong
> or broken on other markets, but publicising these will inevitably start us
> on a downward spiral of everyone criticising everyone else which will leave
> users, developers, and OEM with the impression that Android doesn't have any
> good application distribution offerings. You and I have had a good working
> relationship in the past where information was shared behind closed doors
> about issues affecting us both (e.g. the Archos market leaching from both
> our sites and getjar), and I hope we can continue to work together in this
> way and that doesn't have to end for fear of you addressing an issue and
> then a publicising it as a negative aspect of the other markets.
>
I'm keeping all confidential information out of the public and that includes
confidential information regarding SlideME and any-and-all partners. I take
these obligations seriously. In my recollection, I've never even criticized
AndAppStore, only the Android Market and that was largely over it's closed
nature of how they handled things (and not having screenshots or
international billing). Nothing confidential there either, as I'm not
exactly inside the Google loop.

However, if there is public information out there, I'm perfectly free to
criticize it. At least developers then have additional information to form
their own opinions on the matter. I've already given fair warning.


> My experience of George is that he's not been as open as you were, but
> that's how he wants to run things, and I respect the fact that it's his
> decision to run his market that way, but I do hope the two of you can find a
> way to work productively together in the community, which I believe will be
> more beneficial to everyone in the long run.
>
> Al.
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> On 22 Mar 2010, at 01:42, Shane Isbell wrote:
>
> I can't speak for everyone's individual reason, but I can put some general
> perspective on the issue. First, the number of downloads for an alternative
> market won't compare to Android Market. For many developers, this is the end
> of the story and they move no further in their consideration. The reasons
> I've seen for uploading to alternative markets are:
>
> 1) Better web presence and promotion than Android Market. There are also
> places like cyrket out there that help address this need.
> 2) Selling to users that don't have access to Android Market
> 3) Applications that are banned from Android Market (tethering, adult)
> 4) Developer from a country that can't sell on the Android Market (Speed
> Forge 3D)
>
> From what I've seen, (1) is the biggest reason. Sales are rather pathetic
> in alternative markets but it allows small groups of users who really want
> the app. Some users claim this reduces piracy.
>
> Assuming SlideME 's direction is still the same, it is focusing on (1),
> (2), and (4). I assume AndAppStore may be as well, but I'll let Al speak to
> that.
>
> ZappMarket isn't focused on any of these 4 points. It is focusing on
> helping successful paid application developers to increase sales and
> understand their user base. It's not focused on the web, international sales
> or banned apps. I've opened it up to free app developers to provide a place
> to go, with all the problems that SlideME is having. From free app
> developers, I've already gotten negative feedback about not having (1), so
> ZappMarket won't help those individuals for a while. My guess is that web
> promotion is the number one reason for free application developers.
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Martin Hinsch <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> With all the discussion about SlideMe and Zappmarket going on, I was
>> wondering - those of you who have submitted their apps to several markets,
>> how many downloads do you get? Do alternative markets really matter,
>> especially
>> in comparison to the official Google market, or is that more of a
>> long-term
>> perspective thing?
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