I'll suport any such a activity, but I'm affraid Google is deaf to any
android market related proposals (remember petition for better market).

BTW: Interesting article
http://larvalabs.com/blog/android/android-market-payouts-total-2-of-app-stores-1b/Not
sure about methodology, but it shows the picture.

Tom

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:38 PM, JP <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Anybody dispute we're going around in circles for months now?
> Let me float the idea that the next logical step would be to see if
> Google was interested in entertaining the idea of breaking out Market
> and handing it over, possibly in part only, to a third party. Of
> course they have the power to keep Market in a limbo. But how long can
> they afford to do that. Perhaps it's time to talk about putting an
> unsolicited proposal together to take over Market by a focused team
> that drives Market forward.
>
>
> On Jun 22, 11:02 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Cool. Don't expect figures anywhere near Market (ahh, if only we could
> get multi-million unit OEM deals), but most developers find there's enough
> interest to keep their listing up to date.
> >
> > Oh, and if you want to discuss AndAppStores' features or ideas please
> feel free to use the Google group athttp://
> groups.google.com/group/andappstore-discussion
> >
> > Al.
> > --
> >
> > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/*
> >
> > ======
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> number  6741909.
> >
> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
> >
> > On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:57, Tomáš Hubálek wrote:
> >
> > > Al,
> >
> > > thanks for info about AndAppStore. I will try to add my application
> there (free version, if it is possible) and check number of downloads and
> compare it with Android Market downloads.
> >
> > > Maybe I'll change my opinion about alternative markets and I will
> publish success story on my blog ;-)
> >
> > > Have a good day
> > > Tom
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > I'm glad to have helped you understand things. It's useful to remember
> that working hard towards something doesn't always give the results many
> want (BP, oil spill, you get the picture).
> >
> > > I'd disagree with you over the alternative markets, especially as some
> developers make a hundreds of dollars per month from sales via AndAppStore
> (and one broke the two thousand dollar mark last month), but hey, if that's
> how you feel, no one is forcing you to use them.
> >
> > > All the best,
> >
> > > Al.
> > > --
> >
> > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/*
> >
> > > ======
> > > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company
> number  6741909.
> >
> > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
> >
> > > On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:06, Tomáš Hubálek wrote:
> >
> > >> Al,
> >
> > >> you are right again.
> >
> > >> I can blame just my stupidity, that I thought that on Market is
> possible sell and buy and also that I believed that We're working hard to
> add more countries, so please stay tuned! is true. Often negative experience
> is more valuable than positive one and I thank for it.
> >
> > >> With all respect to alternative markets I don't think they are real
> alternative if there is not powerful enough subject in behind (I'm really
> curious how Vodafone 360 Shop will work, but I don't see any other *real*
> alternative).
> >
> > >> Have a good day
> > >> Tom
> >
> > >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> Tom,
> >
> > >> I think the key thing to remember here is there are alternatives and
> developers are free not to pay their 25USD and use another platform or app
> store.
> >
> > >> It's true that other platforms may have other limitations, and other
> Android app stores don't have the same reach, but at the end of the day you
> can only choose from what's on offer, and if you don't like that you can
> either actually do something about it by providing an alternative or you
> have to accept that the platform is what it is.
> >
> > >> As far as I remember Google have never said the 25 USD fee is anything
> more than a fee to list apps on Market, so it's not like they've mislead
> you, so if you don't think it's value for money then don't pay and don't use
> the service.
> >
> > >> Al.
> > >> --
> >
> > >> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/*
> >
> > >> ======
> > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> company number  6741909.
> >
> > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
> >
> > >> On 22 Jun 2010, at 14:37, Tomáš Hubálek wrote:
> >
> > >>> Al,
> >
> > >>> you are right. I think that companies that invested millions have
> (hopefully) better information from Google than we poor people have.
> >
> > >>> But it is necessary to keep in mind that applications created by non
> professional developers has much more than millions downloads from the
> market.
> >
> > >>> I believe that we are also contributing to Android success or fail
> (and Google has the immodesty to ask 25 USD for permission to provide people
> free only apps) and I think we should get at least some info.
> >
> > >>> Tom
> >
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>> 2010/6/22 Tomáš Hubálek <[email protected]>
> >
> > >>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Anil <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>> that they control it, are not quite sure how to profit from it. It is
> >
> > >>> Not clearly stated business model in the ecosystem makes this
> ecosystem untrustworthy and risky for investment.
> >
> > >>> Try telling that to the numerous OEMs who have invested millions (if
> not 10s of millions) in Android devices, and the carriers who invest
> hundreds of thousands (if not millions) in promoting those devices.
> >
> > >>> I very much doubt the kind of investment you're considering comes
> anywhere near that level, so your choices are pretty much "put up with it"
> or "go elsewhere" because although the Googlers do listen to the rest of us
> we are a very small voice in the crowd when you factor in the guys who have
> to make, sell, and support the actual devices.
> >
> > >>> Al.
> > >>> --
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