joke or not, but it seems like a good term for the phenomenon. ;)

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Tim Mensch <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> It spoils the joke if you have to explain it.
>
> On 6/17/2011 12:32 PM, Linux Box Solutions wrote:
>
> He's calling u a troll
>
> www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
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>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Vitalie Vrabie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>  i think it is hanging precisely because swap is overwriting fs.
> and besides, i didn't know that this process is well known already and even
> has a name ("trolling"). :)
>
> now i'm freshly installing ubuntu with swap on a completely different vhdd
> so it can't troll the fs anymore.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Jason Gerecke <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I've actually been seeing similar issues under VirtualBox 4.0.8 r71778
>> with a virtual quad-core 64-bit Ubuntu 11.04 guest and 64-bit Windows
>> 7 host. However, in my case, the VM seems to kinda-freeze (its hard to
>> describe -- the VM isn't locked up, but it doesn't really respond to
>> most input) for no apparent reason. High memory pressure, or not; high
>> CPU load or not. I haven't had a problem with other guests (Ubuntu
>> 10.11, Arch Linux, RHEL6, etc) though to be honest I haven't been
>> working with them as much recently...
>>
>> Since I have to reset the VM every-so-often, I've enabled full
>> journaling on the VMs ext4 disks. Perhaps your package manager's files
>> got corrupted when you reset the machine?
>>
>> Also, I'll mirror the comments that 512MB of RAM isn't going to be
>> enough -- my VM was swapping up a storm when compiling with "-j4".
>> Allocating 1 GB seemed to have solved the swapping issue, though the
>> more the merrier.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ---
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Vitalie Vrabie
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  > what can i say...
>> > i really feel very happy this happened in a vm and not on my host os.
>> > despite its age, linux is not mature enough to live outside VMs.
>> > sad but true.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Linux Box Solutions
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agreed
>> >>
>> >> www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
>> >> www.Krzyview.com
>> >> www.Email-Marketers.com
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like you're getting a little too emotional now.
>> >> In a nutshell; Get some more RAM. You'll probably need 10+GB to give
>> 8GB
>> >> to the build.
>> >> Beyond that I'm afraid to tell you your view of OSes, VMs, and what
>> should
>> >> be and should happen is, unfortunately, unlikely to have any effect on
>> the
>> >> situation.
>> >> Enjoy,
>> >>
>> >> Al.
>> >> --
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>> >>
>> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
>> >> it's subsidiaries.
>> >> On 17 Jun 2011, at 16:14, Vitalie Vrabie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> oh is it the vm?
>> >> or rather this supposed-to-be os, which turns out to be just an insult
>> to
>> >> humanity?
>> >>
>> >> no ram - fail the allocation, fail the compiling.
>> >> but dont write swap over fs.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Because a Machine Emulators can have bugs, and running them low on RAM
>> >>> and Swap is never a good idea.
>> >>> I ended up getting a refund from one vendor of a VM solution because I
>> >>> saw disk corruption every time a shut down particular VMs.
>> >>> Al.
>> >>> --
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>> >>>
>> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
>> >>> it's subsidiaries.
>> >>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 15:19, Vitalie Vrabie wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> not the case of this xeon.
>> >>>
>> >>> physical ram is 1.5G, vm is 512, lots of swap space in the vm, make
>> -j1
>> >>>
>> >>> still dont understand HOW A COMPILE PROCESS CAN MES UP THE PACKAGE
>> SYSTEM
>> >>> OF UBUNTU. :(
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 32 bit OSes can address more than 4GB using PAE (
>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension ).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Al.
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> T: @alsutton W: www.funkyandroid.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>> >>>> subsidiaries.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 15:06, Linux Box Solutions wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > No it doesn't a limitation of 32 bit systems is 4gb max
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
>> >>>> > www.Krzyview.com
>> >>>> > www.Email-Marketers.com
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Alessandro Pellizzari <
>> [email protected]>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> Il Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:53:37 +0300, Vitalie Vrabie ha scritto:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> where've you seen 8g on 32bit???
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Linux 32bit supports 64 GB of RAM.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Bye.
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