Hi, all
I would like to say that this is very interesting and timely work. The draft
provides a useful starting point for discussing how AI can be introduced into
autonomic networking, especially when intelligence is expected to run in a
decentralized way inside the network.
One question I would like to ask is how ANIMA plans to position this work going
forward. For example, should AI4AN mainly be considered as an architectural
discussion inside ANIMA, or should it also become a bridge between ANIMA, DAWN,
and other agent communication efforts?
From our perspective, we also think that some work is needed at the
infrastructure level, not only at the AI application level. For AI-based ASAs
or agentic network functions to work in real networks.
So I would be very interested in seeing further ANIMA discussion on whether we
need a clearer AI-ASA or AI4AN infrastructure framework, possibly aligned with
DAWN but grounded in existing ANIMA concepts.
Regards,
Mengyao
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From: "Brian E Carpenter"<[email protected]>;
Date: Mon, Jul 6, 2026 09:50 AM
To: "draft-eckert-anima-ai4an"<[email protected]>;
"anima"<[email protected]>;
Subject: [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-eckert-anima-ai4an-00.txt
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Hi,
I'm all for what you are saying in this draft, but I think you also have to
address it to the DAWN people and everybody working on agentic communications.
Look at draft-he-dawn-ipv6-agent-aware-framework, for example; it has very
little to do with IPv6. Maybe you should ask for a slot at the DAWN BOF? (DAWN
= Discovery of Agents, Workloads, and Named Entities.) At least point out that
ANIMA/GRASP has been working on discovery of agents since the dawn of time (pun
intended).
Also, the trust boundary issue we just discussed re
draft-soulard-anima-grasp-router-problem-statement is going to be relevant. I
see a clear clash between the type of trust boundary that BRSKI provides and
how the agentic community is looking at trust.
Nit: s/autonomous/autonomic/ globally
(We chose "autonomic" at the beginning of ANIMA, by analogy with the autonomic
nervous system, so I think we need to be consistent.)
Regards/Ngā mihi
Brian
On 06-Jul-26 11:28, [email protected] wrote:
> Internet-Draft draft-eckert-anima-ai4an-00.txt is now available.
>
> Title: AI for Autonomous Networking
> Authors: Toerless Eckert
>
Alexander Clemm
> Name: draft-eckert-anima-ai4an-00.txt
> Pages: 17
> Dates: 2026-07-05
>
> Abstract:
>
> This document builds on the architectural foundation of
the IETF
> ANIMA "Autonomous Network Infrastructure" to propose an
architecture
> for in-network intelligence in support of network
automation.
>
> The key aspect of this architecture is the use of AI
programmed and
> validated software running decentralized on the network.
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckert-anima-ai4an/
>
> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckert-anima-ai4an-00
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>
>
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