Artur Hecker <[email protected]> wrote: > Indeed, it was a hard sell, but maybe ANIMA was just too early? Or SDN > was doing it all wrong? (in the typical deployments)
1. Evidence from the Rogers July 7, 2022 outage is that SDN has been doing it
wrong.
2. ANIMA/ACP was too early, and too late. Business cycles broke things.
> I am not sure, but certainly incorporating "intelligence" in the
> network - as opposed to leaving it at the ends of it - would require a
> strong, survivable control system, as mentioned below.
Our (IETF/Internet) motto was smart edges, dumb core... enabling
permissionless innovation. The Telco's prefer the exact opposite.
ACP does not fit into either view well... because neither view is 100% sensible.
> The question hence is: should we try to claim that the "agent stuff" is
> best positioned in ANIMA? Would it fly? For network management, I
> certainly see fit. However, most of the current agent discussions
> rather talk about applications (app exchanges on top of HTTPS). While
> it explains the difficulty, why most of it seems completely irrelevant
> to the IETF (DNS for agent discovery is the most relevant thing I have
> heard - maybe I am wrong), most of those "use cases" would hardly be
> ANIMA-related (would user agents use BRSKI? Pledges? ACP? Why???).
I'm even skeptical about the *need* for agent discovery.
I don't really get any of that. I also have no idea how agents pay for the
electricty they use.
> So, ANIMA-wise we have a clear path towards "agentic NMS" or
> "intelligent orchestration" as use cases, so far so boring 😊 What else
> could there be? App-to-network interactions? To do what? Service
> discovery? Transport guarantees? Negotiations? Sovereign (source)
> routing? Positioning? ICN? Should we rather talk about "distributed
> systems" than networks? Should all agents, all my data sources, my
> cloud instances, etc. be registered with "my domain" and span an ACP of
> their own?
Yes, that's the problem. It's "boring" work.
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