Hi Well, IDK about the W-JAX but from the website and what people said about it, it seems a real big event.
But as also said from some of you here, most of the developers attend about one conference a year, so in either way even if we did the ApacheCon EU during the other proposed week, that is CW43 = 20-22 November, we still can not guarantee that will attract more people who already attended W-JAX, and if someone is interested enough to attend ApachCon I believe they will do attend in either way. That is said, I believe we leave the date as is which will give a chance to our American fellows to attend and also I am sure that people from allover EU will be very interested to attend the ApacheCon after not being held for a while in EU. And we it showed that we were wrong, then we can learn from that and plan better next time. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Rainer Jung <[email protected]> wrote: > On 04.05.2012 13:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > >> -- >> Rich Bowen >> [email protected] >> >> On 2012 5 4 07:04, "Goetz, Paul"<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I guess it's not carved in stone, but the contract with the venue is >>> >> already signed. >> >>> Anyway, I could try to change it, but I'm not sure if it will work out... >>> >>> However: The only other option left would be CW43 = 20-22 November - and >>> >> this is clashing with US Thanksgiving. >> >>> So moving the event to late November would more or less exclude US >>> >> committers... >> >> Although I have no wish to be excluded, EU events should not be planned >> for >> the convenience of US attendees. Thats only bitten us in the past. >> Ignoring >> JAX seems like a bad idea, and ultimately a bigger deal. >> > > For those who don't know those other events: > > Software and Support (a German publishing house) publishes "Java Magazin" > which is a monthly german journal about Java development. They sure have > the largest circulation of all similar media in Germany. > > They also run several conferences. The biggest is JAX, which is about Java > development (and as far as I know in the early years "A" stood for Apache > and "X" for XML, but that was long ago). JAX is in *May* and usually is > located in the middle of Germany (close to Frankfurt). > > I guess the second largest one is W-JAX. That one clashes with the planned > date for ApacheCon. It happens in Munich (in the south of Germany) and is > roughly half the size of JAX (please correct me if my estimate is wrong), > but still much bigger than ApacheCon. > > Software and Support very actively promotes those events via the Journal. > Many Java developers in Germany go to one or the other of JAX and W-JAX. > Attendance comes mainly from Germany, Switzerland and Austria. Inernational > attendance is low. > > Running ApacheCon the same week will reduce our attendance, but mostly for > the local attendees. Most devs here are only able to attend one conference > per year. As already mentioned there will also be some clash of possible > speakers. The program for W-JAX is not yet announced although the CFP was > closed on May 2nd. > > Regards, > > Rainer > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
