On Friday, May 4, 2012, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > Hi Noirin > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Nóirín Plunkett > <[email protected]<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Nick Burch > > <[email protected]<javascript:;> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I'm not an American, and I don't live there, so the thanksgiving thing > > > doesn't affect me personally. However, my hope is that we can try out > > some > > > new ideas and formats in Europe, and the North America conference can > > learn > > > from that. (The event in Europe will be smaller and cheaper, so we > should > > > have more chance to experiment and innovate) If we clash with > > thanksgiving > > > then we'll loose the bulk of our American attendees, which likely means > > we > > > loose both those with experiences of organising past ApacheCons, and we > > > loose much of the chance for the organisers of the next one to learn > from > > > us. > > > > > > I completely agree that clashing with JAX isn't great, and will cause > us > > to > > > miss out on some German speaking attendees, which is a huge shame. (Am > I > > > right in thinking that it's all in German, so we won't loose any other > > > European language groups?) It's very hard to judge the two, but my > > feeling > > > was that loosing all the Americans (especially the ACNA13 team) would > be > > > worse. I could be wrong though (it does happen!), so if you think we've > > > weighed the two up wrong please explain why! > > > > I think the weighting is all wrong here. We're running ApacheCon EU in > > Germany. German speaking attendees and contributors will be a huge > > part of our market, and a huge part of the fresh ideas we so > > desperately need. > > > > I don't think we were ever going to get a huge number of US folk to > > ACEU. Thanksgiving probably means we'll get almost none, but I think > > we're going from "a couple of dozen" to "almost none". > > > > Scheduling against W-JAX, which is smaller than JAX but still > > substantial, feels to me like we'll lose a similar percentage of the > > German-speaking audience, but it's a *significantly* bigger group to > > start with. > > > > Good point here, but the question is how can you make sure that whoever > already attended W-JAX will also attend ApacheCon against how many of the > German speaking people who will be so keen to attend ApacheCon EU ? > > Yes the we *might* loose some percentage of German speaking people who will > attend W-JAX but what is the probability of them also attending ApacheCon > EU ?
Finding an answer for above question can be defecult but IMO this is the exact question that we need an answer before reschedule the event. Thanks ! > > > > > > The Apache Way is to work on mailing lists. The team for this event > > should be able to get most of the benefit of past organisers without > > needing them physically present. And the team for the next event > > should be able to learn from the ACEU team in the same way. > > > > Noirin > > > > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein > -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
