On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Goetz, Paul <paul.go...@sap.com> wrote: > Hi, > > just some background on the venue constraints so far: > We selected Rhein-Neckar-Arena Sinsheim to get the most out of the available > budget. > Sinsheim is not known for its famous nightlife (it's more like Knockree), but > SAP gets a special price for booking the venue there + we have all the > technical equipment available (and we're still trying to get some kind of > beer run organized :o) > Basic idea - at least as far as I understood - was to allow even those with a > small travel budget to participate. > > With that in mind, I would agree with Noirin, that those interested in Apache > might still get to ApacheCon EU, even if they went to W-JAX before (at least > from a budget perspective, not so sure about the time required to be > out-of-office). > And back to the nightlife: Munich surely outperforms Sinsheim in this regards > (maybe this is why everybody goes to Berlin Buzzwords and spends the budget > there :o) > Therefore, from my perspective, it seems better to have the ACEU date not > clashing with W-JAX - if possible (even without knowing the detailed numbers). > > Anyway, getting numbers about the expected audience (EU/US/...) seems to be > difficult. > @Nick: Are there any numbers from the past? > > Although I'm not keen on asking our SAP venue staff at all (as they most > probably will kill me for that), I could give it a try and ask on Monday. If > it turns out, that we can't change the contract, we won't have a choice > anyway... > But: In order to do that, I need a decision - either move to the new date > (20-22 November) or keep the original (6-8 November). And if possible by > Monday next week... > I assume that the longer we need, the fewer the probability that 20-22 > November is still available. > > What can I do to get a quick vote or quick poll on "In case we're able to > change the date: Who prefers to move planned ACEU 2012 from 6-8 to 20-22 > (November)"?
Usually you send a mail with the subject [POLL] ACEU Date and give the two options like: ACEU happens best on: [] 6-8 November (clashing with WJAX) [] 20-22 November (clashing with thanksgiving in the US) The question is were to send it. I might sense the this mailinglist is the best place, because everybody interested in the event probably reads it... Cheers > Best regards, > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nóirín Plunkett [mailto:noi...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:55 PM > To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org > Subject: Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get > involved! > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Noirin >> > >> Yes the we *might* loose some percentage of German speaking people who will >> attend W-JAX but what is the probability of them also attending ApacheCon >> EU ? > > People who are just curious about us will probably not come to > ApacheCon two weeks after W-JAX, sure. But honestly, people who only > get to go to one conference a year have probably blown that budget on > Berlin Buzzwords already :-) > > The people I'm concerned with are our EU-based committers, > proto-members and members, who have shown in the past a huge desire > for an EU conference. These people are prepared to put in a > sometimes-surprising amount of effort to get to ACEU--witness Mark in > this thread saying he'll try to attend parts of both even if they're > the same week. > > We should make it possible for those people to attend, even at the > cost of not having US folks. Otherwise we're kidding ourselves that > this is an EU show. > > Noirin -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de
