For me it also works out fine it seems. I'll try to get my 3 WJAX talks done at 
the last 2 days, so I only need to travel to germany once - first attend 
ApacheCon for 2 days, then move to munich.

LieGrue,
strub



----- Original Message -----
> From: Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
> To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get 
> involved!
> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>  On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Christian Grobmeier 
> <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>>  On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Goetz, Paul <paul.go...@sap.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>>>  Usually you send a mail with the subject [POLL] ACEU Date and give the
>>>  two options like:
>>> 
>>>  ACEU happens best on:
>>>  [] 6-8 November (clashing with WJAX)
>>>  [] 20-22 November (clashing with thanksgiving in the US)
>>> 
>> 
>>  Yes, nobody will come from USA for sure, if the dates are moved to 20-22
>>  November.
>>  I will be a very 'un-happy camper' as we say, since I plan to 
> attend.
> 
> Actually I start to think that 6-8 Novembre is better.
> 
> My Reasons:
> 
> - as Mo mentioned, how likely is it that people can attend 2
> conferences in one month? I consider it low. Not only from budget,
> from timing too.
> 
> - ApacheCon is not only for "outsiders", its also great for
> "insiders". I think some projects get a turbo boost when people can
> meet face to face. Misunderstanding are reduce. Excluding the US would
> be a pity, because many of us cannot meet their friends (not every eu
> citizen has the money to go to na con).
> 
> - Again, I think WJAX adresses different people. Last time were many
> talks on DevOps, Agile, How-To-Build-Your-Team and such. I never
> attended an ApacheCon, but my impression is it is more about the
> projects. Maybe we get ppl who never attend WJAX out of their holes
> 
> - Somebody said, with EU con we can experiment. Let's try and see if
> we are really different or make up an attracting event :-)
> 
> 
> That being said, when we decide on 6-8 I strongly believe we need to
> get these news out through all channels asap before the WJAX ads
> start.
> 
> Cheers
> 

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