On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Goetz, Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > just some background on the venue constraints so far: > > We selected Rhein-Neckar-Arena Sinsheim to get the most out of the > available budget. > > Sinsheim is not known for its famous nightlife (it's more like > Knockree), but SAP gets a special price for booking the venue there + we > have all the technical equipment available (and we're still trying to get > some kind of beer run organized :o) > > Basic idea - at least as far as I understood - was to allow even those > with a small travel budget to participate. > > > > With that in mind, I would agree with Noirin, that those interested in > Apache might still get to ApacheCon EU, even if they went to W-JAX before > (at least from a budget perspective, not so sure about the time required to > be out-of-office). > > And back to the nightlife: Munich surely outperforms Sinsheim in this > regards (maybe this is why everybody goes to Berlin Buzzwords and spends > the budget there :o) > > Therefore, from my perspective, it seems better to have the ACEU date > not clashing with W-JAX - if possible (even without knowing the detailed > numbers). > > > > Anyway, getting numbers about the expected audience (EU/US/...) seems to > be difficult. > > @Nick: Are there any numbers from the past? > > > > Although I'm not keen on asking our SAP venue staff at all (as they most > probably will kill me for that), I could give it a try and ask on Monday. > If it turns out, that we can't change the contract, we won't have a choice > anyway... > > But: In order to do that, I need a decision - either move to the new > date (20-22 November) or keep the original (6-8 November). And if possible > by Monday next week... > > I assume that the longer we need, the fewer the probability that 20-22 > November is still available. > > > > What can I do to get a quick vote or quick poll on "In case we're able > to change the date: Who prefers to move planned ACEU 2012 from 6-8 to 20-22 > (November)"? > > Usually you send a mail with the subject [POLL] ACEU Date and give the > two options like: > > ACEU happens best on: > [] 6-8 November (clashing with WJAX) > [] 20-22 November (clashing with thanksgiving in the US) > Yes, nobody will come from USA for sure, if the dates are moved to 20-22 November. I will be a very 'un-happy camper' as we say, since I plan to attend. > > The question is were to send it. I might sense the this mailinglist is > the best place, because everybody interested in the event probably > reads it... > > Cheers > > > > Best regards, > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nóirín Plunkett [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:55 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get > involved! > > > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Noirin > >> > > > >> Yes the we *might* loose some percentage of German speaking people who > will > >> attend W-JAX but what is the probability of them also attending > ApacheCon > >> EU ? > > > > People who are just curious about us will probably not come to > > ApacheCon two weeks after W-JAX, sure. But honestly, people who only > > get to go to one conference a year have probably blown that budget on > > Berlin Buzzwords already :-) > > > > The people I'm concerned with are our EU-based committers, > > proto-members and members, who have shown in the past a huge desire > > for an EU conference. These people are prepared to put in a > > sometimes-surprising amount of effort to get to ACEU--witness Mark in > > this thread saying he'll try to attend parts of both even if they're > > the same week. > > > > We should make it possible for those people to attend, even at the > > cost of not having US folks. Otherwise we're kidding ourselves that > > this is an EU show. > > > > Noirin > > > > -- > http://www.grobmeier.de > https://www.timeandbill.de >
