Sorry, I made a mistake in the reference bidix entry in the last message
that could break pairs already using genitives. The good entry should be
like this (what I originally said in a previous message):
<e r="LR"><p><l>'s<s n="gen"/></l><r></r></p></e>
I have tweaked the CG rules and now everything should work even better.
Thanks!
2017-07-24 13:03 GMT+02:00 Marc Riera Irigoyen <
marc.riera.irigo...@gmail.com>:
> The changes are now live. I've finally not included the apostrophe form in
> the paradigms; instead, it's a form of the 's lemma that is removed via CG
> when the previous lemma is not a noun or proper noun ending in "s". I'm
> currently training the apertium-eng tagger, so I'll add some forbids
> related to genitives in the TSX files to rely less on CG.
>
> In order to add support for genitives in any pair using apertium-eng,
> simply add the following entry (change LR to RL if English is on the right
> side of the bidix):
>
> <e r="LR"><p><l><s n="gen"/></l><r></r></p></e>
>
> To generate the genitive form of any noun or proper noun, add "+'s<gen>"
> after the noun. The correct form of the genitive will be generated
> automatically. Example:
>
> house<n><sg>+'s<gen> = house's
> house<n><pl>+'s<gen> = houses'
>
> Thank you!
>
> 2017-07-19 0:35 GMT+02:00 Marc Riera Irigoyen <
> marc.riera.irigo...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Fran, I agree with your suggestion, I'll do it this way.
>>
>> Flammie, the only change you need to do in the bidix is to add an entry
>> like this:
>>
>> <e r="LR"><p><l>'s<s n="gen"/></l><r></r></p></e>
>>
>> This will allow your pair to get a <gen> lemma after the word in genitive
>> that can be used in transfer rules when translating from English. The other
>> way round is simpler, just make the rules add an extra <gen> tag to a lemma
>> to get its genitive form (e.g. house<n><sg><gen> will show up as "house's").
>>
>> I will wait until the end of the week (in case someone else has any
>> suggestion) and notify you all when I commit the changes. Thanks!
>>
>> 2017-07-18 20:34 GMT+02:00 Flammie Pirinen <flam...@iki.fi>:
>>
>>> 2017-07-18, Francis Tyers sanoi:
>>>
>>> > El 2017-07-18 14:44, Marc Riera Irigoyen escribió:
>>> > > Hello! I'm working on apertium-eng-cat and I've been having some
>>> > > issues with genitives. Currently, many noun paradigms in
>>> > > apertium-eng (mostly irregular nouns) have a <gen> form with the
>>> > > genitive. Not all nouns have it, so apertium-eng also includes a
>>> > > specific lemma for the regular genitive ('s) to add the <gen> tag
>>> > > in the analysis.
>>> > >
>>> > > However, when using apertium-eng for generation, it is impossible to
>>> > > know in advance whether or not a lemma has the genitive form, so
>>> > > generation for lemmas without the <gen> form is broken.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm considering adding a <gen> form to all the affected paradigms to
>>> > > fix this issue. Any objections?
>>> >
>>> > Are there other pairs relying on apertium-eng ? Would this break
>>> > them ?
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve genitives and apertium-eng set up for e.g. fin-eng, but I’m ok with
>>> whichever solution, if you can post a bidix formula for that once
>>> you’ve updated the eng.
>>>
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