Hi Okonkwo, I see you submitted the proposal for improving a morphological transducer, which is correct.
What I'd really like to see, as a mentor, is that you have an understanding of how to not just expand the lexicon, but how to expand the morphology. Specifically, the analyser should be able to analyse different forms of a word, for example (just taking examples from Wikipedia), nye and nyerere, or avóọla and emévọọla, not just vó. We can help you implement this in lexd. It would be good if you were to come on IRC and discuss it with us. -- Jonathan 13 apr 2021, Ç.a. tarixində 06:49 tarixində Okonkwo Ifeanyichukwu <ifeanyijaspe...@gmail.com> yazdı: > > Thanks Hèctor for you feedback, I get it now. Let me make changes on it right > away. > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, 10:39 Hèctor Alòs i Font, <hectora...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Okonkwo, >> >> The problem with this second version of your project is that it seems almost >> the same. The Igbo morphology seems to complex for developing a translator >> in a single GSoC, so forget about working on a bilingual dictionary. You >> should focus on the analyser, so the phases of your project should deal >> about which parts of the morphological analyser you implement, and the >> number of words you add. Your proposal should prove that you understand the >> difficulties of constructing such an analyser. Could you reach a naive >> coverage of 85% or 90%? At the end of the project, you could also think >> about a morphological disambiguator (maybe during a couple of weeks). At >> least, this is my opinion. Someone else can have another. >> >> Hèctor >> >> Missatge de Okonkwo Ifeanyichukwu <ifeanyijaspe...@gmail.com> del dia dt., >> 13 d’abr. 2021 a les 11:34: >>> >>> Thanks, Jonathan, Daniel has converted the existing work to lexd as he >>> offered to do it. It is really great this way, I will wait for it to be >>> merged in order to pull it. >>> >>> Creating a morphological analyser is one of my goals, I don't understand >>> when you say I did not mention morphology. Please I need more detail. >>> >>> -- >>> Okonkwo >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 3:13 PM Jonathan Washington >>> <jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Okonkwo, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your continued interest in Apertium! >>>> >>>> My main comment on this latest version of your proposal is that you >>>> don't mention morphology. This should be a main focus of your >>>> work—not just expanding the lexicon, but making it productive. >>>> >>>> Also, given the range of non-suffixational morphology in Igbo, I think >>>> it might be a good idea to implement the dictionary in lexd instead of >>>> lexc. Daniel has offered to help convert your existing work. What do >>>> you think? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> 12 apr 2021, B.e. tarixində 07:33 tarixində Okonkwo Ifeanyichukwu >>>> <ifeanyijaspe...@gmail.com> yazdı: >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, Sevilay, Hèctor and Ngadou Yopa for reviewing my project >>>> > proposal. I have taken all the suggestions here into consideration and >>>> > made some changes to my proposal. Below is the link to the recent >>>> > changes I made. >>>> > >>>> > link to the proposal: >>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iK_9VTqb5ZHH1bEjl5UAqBP77ijaNKm6p4HIT2JO5qk/edit?usp=sharing >>>> > >>>> > Okonkwo >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 9:47 AM Ngadou Yopa <yopasylves...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hello Okonkwo, >>>> >> >>>> >> I agree with @hectora...@gmail.com. You should probably consider >>>> >> rescoping your project to produce a monodix of good quality. >>>> >> One week is definitely not enough to work on transfer rules. >>>> >> >>>> >> Best, >>>> >> Ngadou Yopa >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 14:52, Hèctor Alòs i Font <hectora...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hi Okonkwo, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> My remark is slightly different to Sevilay's. Igbo seems to be a >>>> >>> language with quite a complex morphology. Wouldn't it make sense to >>>> >>> work just on the morphological analyser ( >>>> >>> https://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code/Morphological_analyser >>>> >>> ) ? Currently, apertium-ibo lexc file has some 200 words and no >>>> >>> morphotactics. So the analyser should be done from scratch (maybe >>>> >>> previous work in Apertium on another Niger-Congo language can help a >>>> >>> bit). >>>> >>> Otherwise, as Sevilay points, you'll have not enough time to work on >>>> >>> transfer rules. And transfer between two very distant languages, like >>>> >>> Igbo and English, is a major challenge. At least one whole GSoC should >>>> >>> be devoted to it. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hèctor >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Missatge de Sevilay Bayatlı <sevilaybaya...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 10 >>>> >>> d’abr. 2021 a les 11:14: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Okonkwo, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How many words you will be able to add into the monodix (and how many >>>> >>>> in the bidix?), and what is your WER goal? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Do you think 1 week is enough to work on transfer rules? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Another thing, as I understand from your proposal your main focus on >>>> >>>> a bilingual dictionary, the monodix needs more focus otherwise you >>>> >>>> can't good result or you have to work simultaneously. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sevilay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:42 PM Okonkwo Ifeanyichukwu >>>> >>>> <ifeanyijaspe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> My name is Okonkwo Ifeanyichukwu a final year student at the >>>> >>>>> University of Buea. I am interested in participating in GSoC 2021, >>>> >>>>> on the project - "Create a usable version of these language pair: >>>> >>>>> English--Igbo". >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> I am planning to build English(eng)-Ibo(ibo) MT pair. I have added >>>> >>>>> some ibo words to ibo pair and pull request open. I have done some >>>> >>>>> coding challenge but it still needs improvement. I will upload the >>>> >>>>> translated story to Github with my work on the GitHub repository >>>> >>>>> mentioned in the proposal draft. It would be of great help if I >>>> >>>>> could get some feedback before I make the final submission. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Link to my proposal draft: >>>> >>>>> Proposal Draft >>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iK_9VTqb5ZHH1bEjl5UAqBP77ijaNKm6p4HIT2JO5qk/edit?usp=sharing >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>>> Okonkwo >>>> >>>>> IRC: Ifeanyi >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>>> >>>>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>>> >>>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>>> >>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>>> >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Apertium-stuff mailing list >>>> > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
