I support an increased level of financial reporting, but only to the extent
that itself doesn't cause extra burden and cost on APNIC.


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On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Dean Pemberton <[email protected]>wrote:

> I agree with Yamanishi-san.
>
> The document detailing the activities undertaken by APNIC at the
> ICANN49 meeting are an excellent first step to articulating to
> membership what the purpose and benefits are of this level of
> engagement.
>
> As previously mentioned, I don't believe that the root of the issue is
> business class travel or otherwise, I believe that it is demonstrating
> to the membership, in a way that they accept, that the balance between
> the expenditure and outcomes is appropriate.
>
> In order to do that, there must be transparency and a level of
> detailed reporting across both areas.  It is only then that the
> membership can determine if they find the balance appropriate.
>
> To that end I would support an increased level of financial and
> activity reporting along the lines Yamanishi-san has suggested.  We do
> see this increased reporting in RIRs and other multistakeholder
> organisations and they are to be commended for this.
> This will allow the membership to determine if outputs such as those
> reported by APNIC at ICANN49 are balanced with the expenditure
> required to produce them.
>
> With regard to NetMundial, the final output document is out for
> comment, so I would expect a detailed assessment by members of the
> APNIC delegation would be presented any time now.
>
> My favourate part of the document so far is:
>
> "Internet governance discussions would benefit from improved
> communication and coordination between technical and non-technical
> communities, providing a better understanding about the policy
> implications in technical decisions and technical implications in
> policy decision making."
>
> Ensuring that Internet Governance messages are reframed and
> communicated in a way that the technical community finds easy to
> access and engage with seems like something that APNIC is well placed
> to do.
>
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Dean Pemberton
>
> Technical Policy Advisor
> InternetNZ
> +64 21 920 363 (mob)
> [email protected]
>
> To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Masato Yamanishi
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Paul and Tony,
> >
> > BTW, I think this page is more transparent than past APNIC announcement.
> >
> > http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup
> >
> > So, can we expect similar announcement about NETmundial in last week?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Rgs,
> > Masato Yamanishi
> >
> >
> > On 14/04/26 0:44, "Dave Mead" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Your speech at Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program meeting is
> utterly
> > disappointing to APNIC Members.
> >
> > http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup
> >
> > You said, "...Members pay fees to APNIC to support the organisation and
> the
> > services and they don't give APNIC a blessing to spend that money in
> > unlimited fashion on Internet development..."
> >
> > http://audio.icann.org/meetings/singapore2014/apilp-22mar14-en.mp3
> >
> > Members DID NOT BLESS APNIC to spend the fees on business class travel
> which
> > costs 3 times more than an economy class ticket. The entire senior
> > management, including your Executve Assistant and those who work for
> APNIC
> > as consultants travel in business class contributing to the success of
> the
> > airlines but clearly not Internet development in this region.
> >
> > http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/team
> >
> > Paul, you're leading a not-for-profit organisation not a comerncial
> entity
> > that you and your senior management can erode member funds for your
> > comfortable travels across the world. This is just outrageous and
> > mismanagement of Member funds.
> >
> > Members like to see the Executive Council takes note of this and truely
> > represent the Members to better manage their funds to contribute for the
> > Internet development in this region. A lot of development work can be
> done
> > if the funds are managed effectively not use for personal benefits.
> >
> > Best
> > -Dave Mead
> >
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