Brajesh, I've seen you mention reduced fees multiple times.... and of course, everyone wants to pay less.. but with the runout and income restraints on APNIC I don't think reducing fees is a good idea in the short term. If the members are asking for more resources, such as training, consulting and so on, then reducing the ability to service those resources would not be wise.
Also, with the size of your population, the growth rate of your industry, I really don't see why you have a problem with finances. The NIR of India really should be making enough revenue to pay for itself. Actually... will the NIR's make available the financial reports to the APNIC community? If you are asking for reduced fees, then I would like to see evidence as to why you are asking for them... if there is an issue of hardship, I would like to see this issue discussed. So feel free to point me to a link, since you are part of this model of transparency, to your financial reports for your time in operation. I would like to see them for all RIR's actually. So Brajesh, please let me know when they can be provided. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker* *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks Company [email protected] ; www.v4now.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/v4now ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM, B C Jain <[email protected]>wrote: > I also support request for full transparency of expenditure and outcome. > > This would also help in looking at membership issues and help to the > members > by reduced fees to NIRs and allocation of funds towards membership benefit > and in a balanced way for all regions/economies of APNIC. With reduce fees > to NIRs, NIRs themselves would be able to engage with its members over > issues which are more relevant to that NIR membership. > > With regards > > Brajesh Jain > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton > Sent: 29 April 2014 11:07 > To: Masato Yamanishi > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] ICANN 49 event wrapup > > I agree with Yamanishi-san. > > The document detailing the activities undertaken by APNIC at the > ICANN49 meeting are an excellent first step to articulating to > membership what the purpose and benefits are of this level of > engagement. > > As previously mentioned, I don't believe that the root of the issue is > business class travel or otherwise, I believe that it is demonstrating > to the membership, in a way that they accept, that the balance between > the expenditure and outcomes is appropriate. > > In order to do that, there must be transparency and a level of > detailed reporting across both areas. It is only then that the > membership can determine if they find the balance appropriate. > > To that end I would support an increased level of financial and > activity reporting along the lines Yamanishi-san has suggested. We do > see this increased reporting in RIRs and other multistakeholder > organisations and they are to be commended for this. > This will allow the membership to determine if outputs such as those > reported by APNIC at ICANN49 are balanced with the expenditure > required to produce them. > > With regard to NetMundial, the final output document is out for > comment, so I would expect a detailed assessment by members of the > APNIC delegation would be presented any time now. > > My favourate part of the document so far is: > > "Internet governance discussions would benefit from improved > communication and coordination between technical and non-technical > communities, providing a better understanding about the policy > implications in technical decisions and technical implications in > policy decision making." > > Ensuring that Internet Governance messages are reframed and > communicated in a way that the technical community finds easy to > access and engage with seems like something that APNIC is well placed > to do. > > > Regards > > -- > Dean Pemberton > > Technical Policy Advisor > InternetNZ > +64 21 920 363 (mob) > [email protected] > > To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Masato Yamanishi > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Paul and Tony, > > > > BTW, I think this page is more transparent than past APNIC announcement. > > > > http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup > > > > So, can we expect similar announcement about NETmundial in last week? > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > Rgs, > > Masato Yamanishi > > > > > > On 14/04/26 0:44, "Dave Mead" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Paul, > > > > Your speech at Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program meeting is > utterly > > disappointing to APNIC Members. > > > > http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup > > > > You said, "...Members pay fees to APNIC to support the organisation and > the > > services and they don't give APNIC a blessing to spend that money in > > unlimited fashion on Internet development..." > > > > http://audio.icann.org/meetings/singapore2014/apilp-22mar14-en.mp3 > > > > Members DID NOT BLESS APNIC to spend the fees on business class travel > which > > costs 3 times more than an economy class ticket. The entire senior > > management, including your Executve Assistant and those who work for > APNIC > > as consultants travel in business class contributing to the success of > the > > airlines but clearly not Internet development in this region. > > > > http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/team > > > > Paul, you're leading a not-for-profit organisation not a comerncial > entity > > that you and your senior management can erode member funds for your > > comfortable travels across the world. This is just outrageous and > > mismanagement of Member funds. > > > > Members like to see the Executive Council takes note of this and truely > > represent the Members to better manage their funds to contribute for the > > Internet development in this region. A lot of development work can be > done > > if the funds are managed effectively not use for personal benefits. > > > > Best > > -Dave Mead > > > > _______________________________________________ apnic-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > apnic-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > apnic-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk > > > -- > > > "This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. 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