Hey Dean,

Can you please remind me which policy number that was... clearly I missed
something.




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On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Dean Pemberton <[email protected]>wrote:

> We still have DN for one reason and one reason only.
> ARIN requires it as part of their transfer policy.
>
> We know this because the community already removed the requirement for DN
> for IPv4 addresses post exhaustion once, and then quickly had to put it
> back in because we stood to miss out on ARIN transfers.
>
> So to my mind the community has already spoken and this is what it has
> said:
>
> "We don't want/care about DN for post exhaustion IPv4 addresses.  We've
> already voted to remove it once.  We *DO* care about transfers from ARIN,
> so we put DN back.  Thats the only reason we have DN."
>
> So here you go community...  am I wrong with that statement?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Skeeve Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dean,
>>
>> I am simply asking for opinions so that when/if something happens in the
>> other regions that the APNIC region has already discussed it, or at least
>> had opening discussions.
>>
>> Do you think that we should avoid any discussion on the matter before
>> something happens and be reactionary? or seek to open a discussion and get
>> the feeling from the community?
>>
>> Lately there has been a lot of comments on involving the community
>> more... which is what I am trying to facilitate by bringing up the topic.
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
>> *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks Business
>> [email protected] ; www.v4now.com
>>
>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>>
>> facebook.com/v4now ;  <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>
>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>
>> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Dean Pemberton 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Too true Bill,
>>>
>>> For me the trigger points for any further conversation on DN are:
>>>
>>> ARIN changes or relaxes its policy on requiring DN for transfers.
>>> *OR*
>>> APNIC members decide they no longer need transfers from ARIN.
>>>
>>> I'm happy to talk about one of those things (the second), the first is
>>> none of my business.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dean
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Bill Woodcock <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On May 18, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Skeeve Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> ARIN, RIPE and APNIC all have demonstrated need at present.
>>> >> RIPE and ARIN are having discussions about removing or lowering the
>>> bar.
>>> >
>>> > Well, RIPE is.  I wouldn’t say that’s true of ARIN.  I mean, there are
>>> always people talking about stuff, but there’s a difference between people
>>> talking and a policy proposal that has any support or chance of becoming
>>> future policy.
>>> >
>>> >                                 -Bill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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>
> Dean
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