I think I still hear this as "DN would not apply if the transfer was within APNIC, but would apply if it was to/from ARIN"
To my mind this creates complexity/ambiguity which isn't required. We either think DN is important, or we don't. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Elvis Velea <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dean, > I think I did not make my idea clear enough. > I don't want to cause policy fragmentation. What I wanted to say is that we > would remove DN completely and APNIC staff would (just as RIPE NCC staff if > 2014-05 becomes policy) create an operational procedure and work with the > rest of the the RIRs that have Inter-RIR transfer policy to allow Inter-RIR > transfers to and from the region. > Basically, this would mean that if a region still has DN in their policy, > APNIC will have a procedure to verify DN for it's member for transfers > coming in the region and facilitate the transfer. > > To quote from RIPE-2014-05: > " If another RIR has a different policy, the RIPE NCC should create an > operational procedure, in cooperation with that RIR, to allow transfers to > and from its service region. In all cases, the registries of the different > RIRs must be consistent. > [...] > When Internet number resources are transferred from another RIR, the RIPE > NCC will work with its member LIR to fulfil any requirements of the sending > RIR. > [...] > When transferring Internet number resources to another RIR, the RIPE NCC > will follow the transfer policies that apply within its own service region. > The RIPE NCC will also comply with the commitments imposed by the receiving > RIR, in order to facilitate the transfer." > > I am not saying that we should copy the RIPE policy proposal. I am just > saying that this time, Sandra managed to come up with a very simple, clear > and easy to follow policy proposal. > > As far as I know, ARIN has not responded or reacted to RIPE-2014-05 policy > proposal. That is probably the reason why they are not responding here > either. I do see that DN is discussed in the ARIN region but I have no idea > if they will go away with it or keep it until they hit the wall (depletion). > > Kind regards, > Elvis > > > > On 04/06/14 22:38, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > Hi Elvis, > > If we work on a new policy proposal, maybe we > can remove DN for everything else but ARIN incoming IPs (for as long as ARIN > will keep DN in their policy) and still be compatible with RIPE and ARIN > policies regarding Inter-RIR transfers. > > I think that would cause a nasty policy fragmentation effect. > I believe we should make a holistic decision about DN and stick to it. > It's either something we believe is a good idea, or it's not. > > At the moment however we appear to be in a position of: > "We don't think DN is a good idea and we'd do away with it entirely if > only ARIN would continue to transfer addresses to the APNIC region" > > Dean > > > > _______________________________________________ > apnic-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk > -- Regards, Dean _______________________________________________ apnic-talk mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk
