Simple solution -- pre-order and plant them 2 ft. X 10 ft. Will make you,
and the nursery, happy...:-)

Jon


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Kushad, Mosbah M <kus...@illinois.edu>wrote:

>  I have had little luck with Gala, Fuji, and Honeycrisp filling their
> spaces when grafted on Bud 9. Central Illinois has one of the richest soils
> in the country, but that does not seem to make a difference.  Bud 9 reminds
> me of Mark, it start great, but it slows down considerably after five plus
> years of growth.  Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois****
>
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>
> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Philion
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:53 PM
> *To:* Apple-Crop
>
> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness****
>
>  ** **
>
> No doubt that B9 is extremely winter hardy.****
>
> ** **
>
> If you pamper those trees so they grow, it could be ok.****
>
> ** **
>
> Our Honeycrisp/B9 never filled their space (12’ x 4’)****
>
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>
> Others had good results with that combination =****
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.hrt.msu.edu/assets/PagePDFs/ronald-perry/Rootstocks-for-Honeycrisp2.pdf
> ****
>
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>
> Vincent****
>
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>
> On 24oct., 2013, at 16:39, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
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>
> ****
>
> My concerns are winter damage.  In the last 80 years here in Western
> Montana, temps have been recorded to -33F.  -20 F is almost guaranteed
> every year.  I see a problem in that snow cover all winter is not common.
>  My first leaf Honeycrisp (planted in April) 1/2 inch trees cut back to
> about 34 inches are now 6-7 feet, and have outgrown M26 Suncrisp planted at
> the same time, same conditions.  I do keep the nutrients at high levels. Ph
> is 7.0 to 7.4 with a silt -loam soil at 3300 feet elevation.  If I thought
> Nic29 would take the weather here I would use those.  All of your comments
> are very helpful, please keep them coming,****
>
> Hugh****
>
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>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Vincent Philion <
> vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca> wrote:****
>
> Hi! As a plant pathologist, I love B9 because it is tolerant to
> fireblight. We’ve grown nice and productive trees on B9. However, I agree
> with Mr. Norton = our experience with HoneyCrisp/B9 is not a good one.****
>
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>
> Vincent****
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> On 24oct., 2013, at 15:45, <dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com> <
> dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com> wrote:****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> Hugh,  we have been growing Granny Smith, Zestar and Pristine here at
> Royal Oak Farm on M9 in far northern Illinois for about 4 years now and
> have had good results.  We also have Honeycrisp on Bud9 planted at the same
> time and they are half the size of the M9.  We have decided to not use Bud9
> again due to its slow growth pattern for our silty clay loam soil type.
> Hope this helps!****
>
>  ****
>
> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
> 15908 Hebron Rd.
> Harvard, IL 60033-9357
> Office (815) 648-4467
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>  ----- Original Message -----****
>
> *From:* Gary Snyder <g...@c-onursery.com>****
>
> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list <apple-crop@virtualorchard.net>****
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:33 PM****
>
> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness****
>
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>
> Hugh:****
>
> According to the Washington Tree Fruit Research Commission M9-Nic29
> rootstock is under the category of (fair) for cold hardiness.****
>
> Their rankings range Tolerant, Good and Fair.****
>
> Gary Snyder****
>
> C & O Nursery****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:18 AM
> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list
> *Subject:* [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness****
>
>  ****
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the winter hardiness of M9-Nic29
> rootstock?  ****
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-- 
Jon Clements
aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
UMass Cold Spring Orchard
393 Sabin St.
Belchertown, MA  01007
413-478-7219
umassfruit.com
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