Simple solution -- pre-order and plant them 2 ft. X 10 ft. Will make you, and the nursery, happy...:-)
Jon On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Kushad, Mosbah M <[email protected]>wrote: > I have had little luck with Gala, Fuji, and Honeycrisp filling their > spaces when grafted on Bud 9. Central Illinois has one of the richest soils > in the country, but that does not seem to make a difference. Bud 9 reminds > me of Mark, it start great, but it slows down considerably after five plus > years of growth. Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Philion > *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:53 PM > *To:* Apple-Crop > > *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness**** > > ** ** > > No doubt that B9 is extremely winter hardy.**** > > ** ** > > If you pamper those trees so they grow, it could be ok.**** > > ** ** > > Our Honeycrisp/B9 never filled their space (12’ x 4’)**** > > ** ** > > Others had good results with that combination =**** > > ** ** > > > http://www.hrt.msu.edu/assets/PagePDFs/ronald-perry/Rootstocks-for-Honeycrisp2.pdf > **** > > ** ** > > Vincent**** > > ** ** > > On 24oct., 2013, at 16:39, Hugh Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > > > **** > > My concerns are winter damage. In the last 80 years here in Western > Montana, temps have been recorded to -33F. -20 F is almost guaranteed > every year. I see a problem in that snow cover all winter is not common. > My first leaf Honeycrisp (planted in April) 1/2 inch trees cut back to > about 34 inches are now 6-7 feet, and have outgrown M26 Suncrisp planted at > the same time, same conditions. I do keep the nutrients at high levels. Ph > is 7.0 to 7.4 with a silt -loam soil at 3300 feet elevation. If I thought > Nic29 would take the weather here I would use those. All of your comments > are very helpful, please keep them coming,**** > > Hugh**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Vincent Philion < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > Hi! As a plant pathologist, I love B9 because it is tolerant to > fireblight. We’ve grown nice and productive trees on B9. However, I agree > with Mr. Norton = our experience with HoneyCrisp/B9 is not a good one.**** > > ** ** > > Vincent**** > > ** ** > > On 24oct., 2013, at 15:45, <[email protected]> < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > > > **** > > Hugh, we have been growing Granny Smith, Zestar and Pristine here at > Royal Oak Farm on M9 in far northern Illinois for about 4 years now and > have had good results. We also have Honeycrisp on Bud9 planted at the same > time and they are half the size of the M9. We have decided to not use Bud9 > again due to its slow growth pattern for our silty clay loam soil type. > Hope this helps!**** > > **** > > Dennis Norton > Royal Oak Farm Orchard > 15908 Hebron Rd. > Harvard, IL 60033-9357 > Office (815) 648-4467 > Mobile (815) 228-2174 > Fax (609) 228-2174 > http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com > http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com**** > > ----- Original Message -----**** > > *From:* Gary Snyder <[email protected]>**** > > *To:* Apple-crop discussion list <[email protected]>**** > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:33 PM**** > > *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness**** > > ** ** > > Hugh:**** > > According to the Washington Tree Fruit Research Commission M9-Nic29 > rootstock is under the category of (fair) for cold hardiness.**** > > Their rankings range Tolerant, Good and Fair.**** > > Gary Snyder**** > > C & O Nursery**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas > *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:18 AM > *To:* Apple-crop discussion list > *Subject:* [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness**** > > **** > > Does anyone have any experience with the winter hardiness of M9-Nic29 > rootstock? **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop**** > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop**** > > ** ** > > Vincent Philion, agr., M.Sc.**** > > Microbiologiste/Phytopathologiste (pomiculture)**** > > ** ** > > Institut de recherche et de développement en agro-environnement**** > > Research and Development Institute for the Agri-Environment**** > > ** ** > > www.irda.qc.ca**** > > ** ** > > Centre de recherche**** > > 335, Rang des Vingt-Cinq Est > Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville (Québec) J3V 0G7**** > > [email protected]**** > > Bureau: 450 653-7368 poste 350**** > > Cellulaire: 514-623-8275**** > > Skype: VENTURIA**** > > Télécopie: 450 653-1927 **** > > ** ** > > Verger expérimental**** > > 330, Rang des vingt-cinq Est**** > > Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville (Québec) J3V 4P6**** > > Téléphone et télécopieur : 450 653-8375**** > > Local pesticide: 450-653-7608**** > > ** ** > > > Pour nous trouver, cliquer sur le lien: > Laboratoire<http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?cid=9609486867104665866&q=irda+pfi&hl=fr&sll=45.557814,-73.360476&sspn=8.87586,1.961403&ie=UTF8&ll=45.557814,-73.360476&spn=0,0&z=16> > **** > > Verger<http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?cid=11405391288824931904&q=verger+irda&hl=fr&sll=45.54961,-73.350585&sspn=0.012504,0.018389&ie=UTF8&ll=45.54961,-73.350585&spn=0,0&z=16> > **** > > ** ** > > Fiers héritiers du travail des frères Saint-Gabriel: > http://arboretum8gabrielis.wordpress.com**** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop**** > > ** ** > > Vincent Philion, agr., M.Sc.**** > > Microbiologiste/Phytopathologiste (pomiculture)**** > > ** ** > > Institut de recherche et de développement en agro-environnement**** > > Research and Development Institute for the Agri-Environment**** > > ** ** > > www.irda.qc.ca**** > > ** ** > > Centre de recherche**** > > 335, Rang des Vingt-Cinq Est > Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville (Québec) J3V 0G7**** > > [email protected]**** > > Bureau: 450 653-7368 poste 350**** > > Cellulaire: 514-623-8275**** > > Skype: VENTURIA**** > > Télécopie: 450 653-1927 **** > > ** ** > > Verger expérimental**** > > 330, Rang des vingt-cinq Est**** > > Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville (Québec) J3V 4P6**** > > Téléphone et télécopieur : 450 653-8375**** > > Local pesticide: 450-653-7608**** > > ** ** > > > Pour nous trouver, cliquer sur le lien: > Laboratoire<http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?cid=9609486867104665866&q=irda+pfi&hl=fr&sll=45.557814,-73.360476&sspn=8.87586,1.961403&ie=UTF8&ll=45.557814,-73.360476&spn=0,0&z=16> > **** > > Verger<http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?cid=11405391288824931904&q=verger+irda&hl=fr&sll=45.54961,-73.350585&sspn=0.012504,0.018389&ie=UTF8&ll=45.54961,-73.350585&spn=0,0&z=16> > **** > > ** ** > > Fiers héritiers du travail des frères Saint-Gabriel: > http://arboretum8gabrielis.wordpress.com**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com
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