----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Apple2list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Apple IIc RAM expansion (was: Apple IIc+ (color monitor)?)


>
> On Oct 19, 2004, at 8:57 PM, Nat wrote:
> >
> > Well, I was just on eBay, and there is someone selling an "upgrade
> > kit" of
> > these chips to upgrade the amount of memory on an Apple ][ memory
> > card.  The
> > page claims they work on IIgs, IIe, IIc, *and* IIc+ memory expansion
> > boards.
> >
> > So it sounds like the chips used on all of them are the same...
> >
> > Now just to find a IIc+ expansion board... :)
> >
> I bought several of these "expansion kits" on eBay (for like $4.00
> each) to use on a GS-RAM card. They're sold in sets of (8) 41256 chips
> (8-bit 256kbit). A bank of eight of these chips will add 256k of ram to
> the card.
>
> I also have a //c+. If I recall correctly, the composite video out on
> the //c+ is the same as on the Apple //e, that is it is a composite
> color out. Connnected to any composite video-compatible display, you
> should be able to see color video. Using the "backpack" mentioned
> earlier, you can get a higher resolution color outup. If used with a
> decent monochrome composite display, the 80-column video mode works
> well enough, but don't try to read 80 column text on a composite color
> display. You'll get a headache!

Thank you, Hal.  This makes a little more sense.  Another user here reported
that the composite video out only output a *monochrome* video signal and
that I needed the backpack for the DB-15 to get any color at all.  But maybe
the regular IIc (not the IIc+) really does operate this way.

So in summary, it sounds like I can hook up a color TV (that has a composite
video-in port) straight to the composite video-out port of the IIc+ via an
RCA-type cable and get color video without needing any additional hardware,
but not high enough resolution to be able to read 80x24 text very well.

Correct?

-Nat



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