>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:26:24 -0500
>From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Trouble with TELNET
>
>>Mark Roth wrote:
>>I finally found out a little bit about TELNET. I wanted to use it to
>>delete some files from my email server. I was able to login OK and it
>>seemed to accept the deletions I wanted to make. But I know I need a
>>successful update to get them to work and I couldn't do it. I tried entring
>>UPDATE and I got back an -err message. When I tried the QUIT command I also
>>got an -err message for that butit did quit and return to Arachne. It did
>>not successfuly delete the messages. What else can I do to get it tpo work?
>>Is there something wrong with the copy of TELNET that I have?
>>
>
>- -Bart replied
>- -You'll have to use the external FTP (ftp.exe) that comes with telnet.apm.
>
>I'll hav eto learn about FTP.EXE. I don't yet know anything about it
>except using ftp:// instead of http:// for transfering files instead of
>downloading pages.
When you shell out of arachne (alt-e) and type FTP at the dos prompt, you
get a similar screen as in telnet.exe. Probably your ISP has some info
about servers on a webpage, from which you should use the ftp-server.
(ftp.xs4all.nl is just an example, it's the server I use myself, but it
requires a login with password, similar to telnet)(there is also a link to
ftp.ook and telnet.ook, on the arachne utilities page, choose "your
applications". You can, of course, add links to .ook to your dialpage.
When you use telnet.exe from the dos prompt, you type alt-a to end server
mode and then the name of a server you want to log in to (mine is
xs4.xs4all.nl). Then you'll be prompted for name and password, and get to
your website.
Telnet.exe does not have support for file transfer commands, nor for
renaming or deleting. FTP.exe does.
>
>- -Probably you'll have to open anather server (like "open ftp.xs4all.nl"
>- -instead of "xs4.xs4all.nl") if you use it manually).
>
>What's xs4.xs4all.nl?
>I started TELNET by pressing the [T] key.
>My server is pop.hotpop.com. When I used TELNET I logged in with the
>command:
>
>telnet> pop.hotpop.com 110
>telnet> user myusername
>telnet> pass mypassword
>Then I entered the delete comands for the messages starting with:
>telnet> dele 26
>telnet> dele 25
>And so on until I did all of the first 26 messages
>Then I tried to use a command trhat I wasn't sure would work, and it didn't.
>telnet> update
>telnet> -err
>Then I tried a command that really should have worked but it didn't either.
>telnet> quit
>telnet> -err
"dele" in telnet.exe is new to me. Does it work?
I usually logout with exit, not quit, but that's to end a unix shell, not
telnet.exe (that's alt-x, but telnet automatically ends when the connection
is broken)
>
>Then it returned me to Arachne
>
>- -Yet if you use telnet on a unix shell account, try "mc" for a change.
>
>What do you mean? is there a "mc" command for TELNET or FTP and what does
>it do?
>
mc (midnight commander) is a graphic filemanager for unix (it's even in
MonkeyLinux) of which I suppose Norton and Volkov commanders are ports,
clones or at least lookalikes. Mc can be used through telnet for site
maintainance, although it's internal editor (or standard editor) "vi" is
completely obscure to me.
>- -The function keys can be replaced by <escape> with the number key
>- -(<esc><1> instead of <F1>)
>
That's just my experience, I can offer to share. Please don't be angry if
it doesn't apply...
Bart
