Dne Thu, 11 May 2000 15:27:55 -0400, L.D. Best napsal:

> But instead of searching in the installation directory on my HDD, and
> saying "You don't got an APM to do this," Arachne took me right to the
> download page and indicated the only option I had was QV.  I didn't have
> QV installed because I'd had bad luck with it before, but since this was
> a new version of Arachne I thought I'd try it.  Before I knew it, things
> were overwritten, changed, "updated" all over the place in Mime.cfg.  QV
> then played only a few seconds of what should have been a MUCH longer
> piece of music [108K worth].

I am not sure, but 108K MP3 may be just few seconds... it's usually 
like 1 MB/minute, so 108K can be just 6 seconds if it is 128 kbps
MP3....

Anyway, I should update Find APM database. There are more MP3 players
available as APMs...

> So I said what the heck, uninstall it and get on with other things.

> But how was I to 'uninstall' with so much overwritten and changed?  I
> looked in the BACKUP directory and nothing was there.

>          -------------***------------

> And *THAT* is the change I'd like to see required for every APM
> available on the web site:

>  Before any changes are made to MIME.CFG or any other file
>  in the Arachne complex, the original file should be copied
>  to BACKUP directory!

>  And, since often more than on APM is installed, each APM
>  should put its own extension on the MIME.CFG backup so we
>  can tell which was is which.  QV should save backup as
>  MIME.QV, Telnet should save backup as MIME.TN, Xedit as
>  MIME.X  etc etc etc

>          -------------***------------

What about MIME.BAK, or MIME.CFG in backup directory ? Maybe it would be
enough.....

You are right, that uninstallation of the last installed Arachne package
should be possible. And you are also right, that there should be way
to save multimedia files with installed players/viewers, like MP3, MPG
or so. I am thinking about it already for a long time.... 

> Everyone knows that one of the worst things about WinXxxx is trying to
> UNinstall anything.  Even provided uninstall programs often don't work.
> Arachne should always strived to be better than dozeware.

APM uninstallation was discussed many times in arachne-development
mailing list, and as APM.EXE is very simple open sourced DGI utility, 
I hoped that someone will go and implement unistall. But the problem is
that sometimes some files are overwritten instead of just added.
Uninstallation is complex problem; currently it seems, that easiest way
of uninstallation is downloading another APM package, there is already
way to "uninstall" non ISO-Latin-1 fonts by re-installing ISO-Latin-1
fonts from APM... I think that uninstallation APM for each available APM
should be quite easy to do. Such APM can be even stored as part of APM
package itself, in some APM/UNISTALL directoryy

> Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to my archieves and do a phoney
> install on Arachne so I can get a clean copy of Mime.cfg.  And then I'll
> have to try to remember all the change that were made for this an that,
> and I'll have to reinstall the APMs I do want working .... and it will
> probably take a couple of hours and I am NOT looking forward to it at
> all.

Ok. What about following changes:

1) All downloaded and auto-installed APMs will be copied to APM\
directory - "Install APM" icon in Utils will browse file:apm\*.apm ....

2) All APMs will include uninstallation note - sometimes, only way to
unisnstall is to reinstall other APM (like with fonts), other APMs will
include extra APM file in APM\UNINSTAL, which will include information 
about files which should be removed and about changes to MIME.CFG and
possible ARACHNE.CFG which should be done. 

3) there should be way to save files of MIME types with installed
viewer/player.

Ok for everyone ?


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