On May 31, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On 5/31/07, Benoit Chesneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I dind't get this message in my inbox @archlinuxfr.org yet : >> http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch/2007-May/014696.html >> >> But let me answer with facts : >> .... snip .... > > And none of this matters. We all have personal problems with other > people, it happens... c'est la vie[1]. Right now, lets let the past > be exactly that, the past. > > None of us (hopefully) are here for our own selves, or ego stroking, > or things like that. What we do is for other people. Fighting over > how best to serve those other people is daft. > > I don't care who's right, I don't care who's wrong. I don't care who > acted immature, or who did stupid things on IRC, or "flamed" them on > different forums - it doesn't matter. > > See here's the simple fact. When people provide a unique service, > they're usually given a little leeway as far as behavior goes. Take > for instance, the guy who develops rxvt-unicode - great terminal > emulator, really harsh and irritable man. But I don't mind because > what he provides is very good. > > Now, all the people involved here run a website. This is not hard. > Running a website entitles you to nothing. Sure, it entitles you to > say what you like on your website, but it entitles you to nothing in > the grand scheme of things. > > Fighting like this is stupid. Again, I don't care who's right. The > people I care about are the French arch users who suffer because of > petty personal crap. It's ridiculous. This is the second time this > has come up through the official Arch channels. Let's stop it. The > mature action here is for one party to step to the fore and say "hey > let's forget this and try to resolve it" - this is what happened, and > now it's time to reciprocate. > > [1]: For non native English speakers, this is used in different > context in English: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%27est_la_vie_%28phrase%29
I don't fight anyone. What I say on my blog endorse only me. They decided to create another website, perfect. They decided to refuse collaboration, perfect. They decided to duplicate content so it seems to cause problem to users, perfect ( we don't duplicate what they do like repo, gallery) .... . You know, I really don't care another website exist. Their choice in all parts. What I care on the other hand is that again and again they speak about this problem. Not me, but them. Again and again I have people that go with me to know who are these fucking guys that pollute their site, channel. So let me say that this contemptible. Noone can ignore that. And this behavior should be said. Sorry I'm not here to please to everyone. And this isn't a question of ego. You could ignore all their acts, not me. This is like ignoring dealers on corners street, and say nothing. You speak about users ? Can't they make their own choice ? I/we don't forbidd users to use archllinuxfr.org and any website they want, they are free. I would prefer one website too. But again they decided to ignore my proposition nor to discuss about it. So don't inverse roles, please. I'm ready to link to their repo and gallery if they merge their current content with archlinuxfr.org, that's all. So they could continue their original projects without be disturbing. Seems they can now have their own server. For sure I can't give them any password or admin level on archlinuxfr.org. I don't trust them. How could you trust someone that already showyou can't trust in him ? C'est la vie, yes. But like I want it is. Benoit _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
