No need to make the packs bloated by packing in all the patches & adding
unnecessary overhead. With C5, leanness & performance are core requirements.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Nandika Jayawardana <[email protected]>
wrote:

> If the server startup time is the only concern, why not provide an option
> for the user to disable executing these tools instead.
>
> Regards
> Nandika
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Ramith Jayasinghe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> how would the user experience change due to this?
>> would that impose additional burden on dev ops?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Sameera Jayasoma <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1. Yes, running them separately will improve the startup time as well.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for running these separately.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Kishanthan Thangarajah <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to decide on how to include following tools for C5.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. jar-to-bundle-convertor
>>>>> 2. patching tool
>>>>>
>>>>> In C4, these tools were part of the distribution and they run during
>>>>> the initial stages of server startup before the OSGi runtime is 
>>>>> initialized
>>>>> and started.
>>>>>
>>>>> For C5, our idea is *not* to run these tools during server startup,
>>>>> but ask the users to run them separately. One of the reason for this is
>>>>> that they will delay the server startup time.
>>>>>
>>>>> These tools will still be part of the the build/distribution but they
>>>>> will have to be manually executed. For example, the 
>>>>> jar-to-bundle-convertor
>>>>> can be run externally and all the converted bundles will be copied in to
>>>>> dropping directory and bundles.info file will also be updated by the
>>>>> tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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