Then those devops should be fired! If they are proper devops people, they should have scripts for everything.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ramith Jayasinghe <[email protected]> wrote: > My concern is would this become a problem when devops users forget to run > these when needed (- might lead to errors that could have been prevented at > the penalty of delay in start up sequence.). > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No need to make the packs bloated by packing in all the patches & adding >> unnecessary overhead. With C5, leanness & performance are core requirements. >> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Nandika Jayawardana <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> If the server startup time is the only concern, why not provide an >>> option for the user to disable executing these tools instead. >>> >>> Regards >>> Nandika >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Ramith Jayasinghe <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> how would the user experience change due to this? >>>> would that impose additional burden on dev ops? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Sameera Jayasoma <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1. Yes, running them separately will improve the startup time as well. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> +1 for running these separately. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Kishanthan Thangarajah < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We need to decide on how to include following tools for C5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. jar-to-bundle-convertor >>>>>>> 2. patching tool >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In C4, these tools were part of the distribution and they run during >>>>>>> the initial stages of server startup before the OSGi runtime is >>>>>>> initialized >>>>>>> and started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For C5, our idea is *not* to run these tools during server startup, >>>>>>> but ask the users to run them separately. One of the reason for this is >>>>>>> that they will delay the server startup time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These tools will still be part of the the build/distribution but >>>>>>> they will have to be manually executed. For example, the >>>>>>> jar-to-bundle-convertor can be run externally and all the converted >>>>>>> bundles >>>>>>> will be copied in to dropping directory and bundles.info file will >>>>>>> also be updated by the tool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Kishanthan Thangarajah* >>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead, >>>>>>> Platform Technologies Team, >>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mobile - +94773426635 >>>>>>> Blog - *http://kishanthan.wordpress.com >>>>>>> <http://kishanthan.wordpress.com>* >>>>>>> Twitter - *http://twitter.com/kishanthan >>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/kishanthan>* >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Afkham Azeez* >>>>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com >>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >>>>>> * <http://www.apache.org/>* >>>>>> *email: **[email protected]* <[email protected]> >>>>>> * cell: +94 77 3320919 <%2B94%2077%203320919>blog: * >>>>>> *http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org> >>>>>> *twitter: **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez* >>>>>> <http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> >>>>>> *linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez >>>>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez>* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Lean . 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