My concern is would this become a problem when devops users forget to run these when needed (- might lead to errors that could have been prevented at the penalty of delay in start up sequence.).
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: > No need to make the packs bloated by packing in all the patches & adding > unnecessary overhead. With C5, leanness & performance are core requirements. > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Nandika Jayawardana <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> If the server startup time is the only concern, why not provide an option >> for the user to disable executing these tools instead. >> >> Regards >> Nandika >> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Ramith Jayasinghe <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> how would the user experience change due to this? >>> would that impose additional burden on dev ops? >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Sameera Jayasoma <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1. Yes, running them separately will improve the startup time as well. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 for running these separately. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Kishanthan Thangarajah < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to decide on how to include following tools for C5. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. jar-to-bundle-convertor >>>>>> 2. patching tool >>>>>> >>>>>> In C4, these tools were part of the distribution and they run during >>>>>> the initial stages of server startup before the OSGi runtime is >>>>>> initialized >>>>>> and started. >>>>>> >>>>>> For C5, our idea is *not* to run these tools during server startup, >>>>>> but ask the users to run them separately. One of the reason for this is >>>>>> that they will delay the server startup time. >>>>>> >>>>>> These tools will still be part of the the build/distribution but they >>>>>> will have to be manually executed. For example, the >>>>>> jar-to-bundle-convertor >>>>>> can be run externally and all the converted bundles will be copied in to >>>>>> dropping directory and bundles.info file will also be updated by the >>>>>> tool. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Kishanthan Thangarajah* >>>>>> Associate Technical Lead, >>>>>> Platform Technologies Team, >>>>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>>> >>>>>> Mobile - +94773426635 >>>>>> Blog - *http://kishanthan.wordpress.com >>>>>> <http://kishanthan.wordpress.com>* >>>>>> Twitter - *http://twitter.com/kishanthan >>>>>> <http://twitter.com/kishanthan>* >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Afkham Azeez* >>>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com >>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >>>>> * <http://www.apache.org/>* >>>>> *email: **[email protected]* <[email protected]> >>>>> * cell: +94 77 3320919 <%2B94%2077%203320919>blog: * >>>>> *http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org> >>>>> *twitter: **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez* >>>>> <http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> >>>>> *linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez >>>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez>* >>>>> >>>>> *Lean . 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