On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Steven Ryerse <[email protected]> wrote:
> If an org with no resources applies they should at least be able to get the > minimum which has been set by this community which I think is currently at a > /22. Always! Depends… End-user /24, ISP multi-homed /22, ISP non-multi-homed /20 IIRC. > If an org wants larger than a /22 they need to be able to demonstrate in a > reasonable way that they are a larger org with a network size that justifies > a larger allocation. The first way is what allocation do they already have? > If they have say a /19 or equivalent maybe they can demonstrate they need > say another /19 by furnishing to ARIN maybe their financials and the > investment they have actually made to justify another /19 or whatever. (I'm > just using the /19 as an example.) Why would financials or investment have any direct correlation with network size in any organization, let alone all organizations? > Organizations supply financials to Banks all the time and this and supplying > network info can be a similar process. If an org can prove they just spent > 50 million on a new data center then that should be justification to get an > allocation of a size to run that size data center. How do you judge the size of a datacenter in IP resource requirements based on the amount of money spent on the datacenter? A relatively small datacenter with a lot of virtual hosts on a small number of machines might need a whole lot more IP addressing than a vastly more expensive datacenter housing a small number of supercomputers and their ancillary systems, costing 100s or even 1000s of times more money. > So if we want the current minimum we should just apply and it should be > allocated, and as long as we keep paying our fees to ARIN it is ours to use. > If we stop paying that block goes back into the pool that ARIN has to > allocate. So if I stand up a bunch of shell companies, they should each be able to get a /22 and I should be able to repeat that exercise until I run out of money or desire for address space? An interesting theory. > If we want a /19 or a /16 then we need to satisfy ARIN that we are an org of > that size and have a network that justifies a /19 or a /16. And maybe prove > the actual expenditures. > > And if we want a /9, regardless of what we have now, we're gonna really have > to provide solid info that justifies the size of our org and the size of our > network justifies a /9. These two statements do not seem to differ from current practice, so I’m not sure what sort of change, if any, you are advocating for in this case. > This is not rocket science. It would however require the input of the many > knowledgeable members of this community to help determine what is require at > each level. I think this community could handle that just fine! I think we have… How do you think the existing NRPM 4 and NRPM 6 (and the rest of NRPM for that matter) have come about? Owen _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
