On Apr 4, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Michael Peddemors <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 14-04-04 03:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Steven Ryerse <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> If an org with no resources applies they should at least be able to get the >>> minimum which has been set by this community which I think is currently at >>> a /22. Always! >> >> Depends… End-user /24, ISP multi-homed /22, ISP non-multi-homed /20 IIRC. > > Personally, I still think the above is limiting, eg the small operator who is > not multi-homed, and only really needs a /22 For better or worse, the community has advised ISPs needing less than a /22 who are single homed to obtain their space from their upstream provider. > >> >>> If an org wants larger than a /22 they need to be able to demonstrate in a >>> reasonable way that they are a larger org with a network size that >>> justifies a larger allocation. The first way is what allocation do they >>> already have? If they have say a /19 or equivalent maybe they can >>> demonstrate they need say another /19 by furnishing to ARIN maybe their >>> financials and the investment they have actually made to justify another >>> /19 or whatever. (I'm just using the /19 as an example.) > > ah.. reasonable way... that is the rub.. I see hosting companies with throw > away domains occupying the whole /19 using it as justification for getting > another /19 of fresh IP(s) they can rent out.. not to disrupt the thread.. > ARIN has a tough time.. what is a legitimate use to one person is maybe not > to another.. I am never sure if IP(s) used to generate outbound traffic is a > good justification, there are other ways to share an IP Address for > outbound.. I think a priority should be somehow worded in that 'inbound' > destinations take priority over outbound sources.. eg, you have to advertise > a public service that it accessible.. it should take precedence over say > someone that uses their IP(s) to generate bulk outbound traffic .. Since this is commentary on something I quoted, not something I wrote, I’ll not comment further. Owen _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
