No harm, no foul, but I appreciate and accept your apology. I know we’re both 
trying to do what we think is right for the community.

Owen

On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:42 PM, David Huberman <[email protected]> wrote:

> And I'd like to follow-up my own post with a "my fault"/"I'm sorry" for 
> directly calling out Owen in my email.   Owen is doing what so many others 
> aren't: he's actively participating.  He and I are on opposite sides here, so 
> it sometimes feel antagonistic when it isn't.  Sorry, Owen, for calling you 
> out by name.  That was wrong of me.
> 
> David R Huberman
> Microsoft Corporation
> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of David Huberman
> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 5:21 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers
> 
> We're going to be a cross-roads very soon.  ARIN is going to exhaust, and 
> network operators will be unable to obtain additional IPv4 address blocks 
> from ARIN.  At that point, the most obvious solution for IPv4 needs will be 
> the market.  Proper stewardship of the ARIN function demands that ARIN policy 
> adjust to what happens in the market.  It's not the other way around, if only 
> because that's not how markets work.
> 
> The ARIN CEO, ARIN's General Counsel, the Harvard economist ARIN pays, 
> professors who study markets, brokers who operate in the market, and buyers 
> and sellers who buy and sell in the market have all told the ARIN community 
> the same story for around 5 years now: the market is going to act as a 
> market, and ARIN policy needs to be ready for it; ARIN policy needs to make 
> sense with the dynamics of the market.
> 
> It's hard to know how to argue with operators like Owen and the Google folks 
> who all say the opposite; that ARIN policy should stick to the same ideals as 
> 1995 (important ideals for a very long time!) and not adjust.  I fear the 
> results of this kind of ostracism :(
> 
> David R Huberman
> Microsoft Corporation
> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
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