The fly in the ointment in your argument is that there are multiple .com domain 
registrars and an Org can go to a 2nd or 3rd one if they were to be denied by 
the 1st one.  ARIN however, is the monopoly for our Region so an Org does not 
have the ability to go to another Official IP resource registrar in our Region. 
 Therefore, as a monopoly, ARIN must award at least a minimum allocation to any 
Org or they will be shut out altogether – and of course that would be stifling 
the Internet and not advancing the Internet which is ARINs mission.  We need to 
fix this!

Steven L Ryerse
President
100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA  30338
770.656.1460 - Cell
770.399.9099 - Office
770.392-0076 - Fax

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From: McTim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:22 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness


Steven,

I agree it is a deeply flawed analogy.
However, I will answer the question with a yes.
It is OK for a Registry Operator to deny access to a name based on whatever 
Registration policy is in place.
I know this as I work for a Registry Operator and the basis of our TLD is that 
we do deny names to people who do not meet our Standards/Eligibility 
Requirement or AUP.  Registrars cannot sell a name to an entity that hasn't 
been approved by the Registry Operator.

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Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route 
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel



On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Steven Ryerse 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So I have to ask you the bottom line question:

Is it OK for an Organized community of existing Domain Name holders to deny a 
small Org the Minimum number of Domain Names from an Official Registrar?


Steven Ryerse
President
100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA  30338
770.656.1460<tel:770.656.1460> - Cell
770.399.9099<tel:770.399.9099>- Office

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From: McTim [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:47 PM
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: Steven Ryerse; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

I have to agree with Owen, I just got my first v4 request from ARIN approved 
for a small org.
Wasn't hard, wasn't burdensome.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Owen DeLong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm sorry, but your argument is utterly specious.


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Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route 
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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