Steve,

As a legacy resource holder (we have a /24 assigned in 1991), I've been 
following this list for quite a while. Mostly I follow it silently, but on 
occasion I spout off.

I am generally in favor of the justification requirements for all IPv4 
allocations/assignments although I haven't actually had to justify an IPv4 
request under the current policies so I don't know how difficult the process 
really is.

I do know that know that justifying an ASN assignment earlier this year was 
pretty easy. (does that mean that I no longer fit into "members of the 
community that only hold legacy allocations"?)

Keith W. Hare
JCC Consulting, Inc.

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Of Steven Ryerse
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To: Gary Buhrmaster
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

Maybe a majority of the vocal community does, but I doubt if you add in all 
members of the community who do not comment and all the members of the 
community that only hold legacy allocations, I suspect that might not be the 
case.  I think the legacy community is speaking volumes by not participating by 
commenting in this forum.  

Thanks.  

Steven Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Buhrmaster [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:12 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: Owen DeLong; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Steven Ryerse <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>
> All of those stats are interesting but they are not what is important here.  
> What is important is how many small Orgs that applied for the minimum 
> allocation (as it was defined at the time of the allocation request) since 
> ARIN was chartered were denied because of needs policy.
>
> I don’t know what that number is but if it is greater than zero, it shouldn’t 
> have happened!  ARIN’s Mission is to Advance the Internet, not to stifle it.

While there is clearly support by some for your position advocating needless 
number allocations, the majority of the community supports a review to insure 
that the allocations are actually advancing the Internet, and not just throwing 
numbers around to whomever asks, whatever their plans (or lack thereof).
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