Why people always believe they "own" IP address space and nobody can
take it from them as if it was a router or a server purchased with a
invoice and declared in their annual balance ?
RIR gives and give takes away since is not ASN's property and there
rules for that. If there is a rule in place state what means a misuse
then sanctions must apply.
Why are people are so skeptical about that this type of rule to be in
place if supposedly nobody that becomes a RIR member should ever have
the intention to void it in such way ?
Fernando
On 02/05/2019 03:30, Carlos Friaças via ARIN-PPML wrote:
Hi Joe, All,
On Wed, 1 May 2019, Joe Provo wrote:
(...)
"Distribution function" is indeed merely agreeing that the data
recorded in the registry is accurate. There's no dibursement of
anything.
Allow me to disagree. People/orgs don't have address space. They go to
the RIR. They get address space. For me, this means the RIR is
distributing address space to whoever knocks on their door and is
elegible to receice resources.
People that have no land are not able to knock at a land registry's
door and simply ask for some.
When we bought our house and land, the registry of
deeds was similar only involved in verifying that the transfer
from the previous holders to us was a valid contract within the
scope of its operations (the state in which we live).
That's a property registry. That is not a numbering resources
registry. As Fernando already wrote, numbering resources are not
property -- or is it property within ARIN?
Anyway, being property or not, the registry distributes numbering
resources (you can argue v4 is not there anymore, but v6 and ASNs are
still there).
When a
neighbor was doing a construction project and we had to go block
their heavy equipment, the registrar of deeds sure didn't come
and settle the dispute. We went down, got the county map and
they agreed. if they hadn't, law enforcement and courts would
have been the next step.
You are perhaps trying to divert from the issue.
You and your neighbor are not members of the same "registrar of
deeds". When a RIR member disrespects what the RIR has previously
awarded to another member, it is breaking the system. And the RIR
should be able to do something about that.
This, like all Internet analogies, is poor; my thrust is that rfg's
is worse. To parallel ARIN with a transportation agency's "line
drawing" and officials embued with law enforcement is wildly off
track.
While we would be happy to have a simple rule in place, the proposal
is somehow forced to design a process (or at least its general lines)
to avoid at all cost the involvement of the RIR staff. This is why any
evaluation needs to be driven from the community, not the RIR staff --
the keyword here should be self-regulation.
I do personally think RFG's analogy is way better than yours.
Regards,
Carlos
ps: thanks for the other URLs.
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