Hi Alyssa,

Good to speak with you. Perhaps I mispoke... how many organizations were removed from the waitlist and are still seeking larger allocations? If my understanding of the original issue appears unclear, please enlighten me!

I am trying to determine if orgs other than the petitioner were effected; if so, how many, and what effect that would have on ARIN's related inventory of addresses allocatable via the waitlist (not including 4.10s, etc.).

Thanks,
Scott

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, Alyssa Moore wrote:

Hi Scott,

Anita Nikolich (AC member) answered this on Dec 16:

>Please note (and you can refer to the Nov AC minutes) that organizations
that are currently on the waitlist won’t be affected, because the next
disbursement of v4 would fulfill all the exempted orgs as well as the ones
remaining on the list. The overall impact to the current waitlist is
non-existent from these requests. 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:21 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
      Hi John,

      In these deliberations, I think it would be useful to know how
      many actual
      ARIN Member Organizations would be effected.  I am not talking
      about
      downstream customers, affiliates, or the like, but only resource
      holders
      on the actual waitlist.  Does John Sweeting have any metrics as
      to this?
      Further, if all effected organizations were to receive the
      allocations
      they are seeking, what percentage of the available address
      inventory would
      be immediately exhausted?

      Thanks,
      Scott

      On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, John Curran wrote:

      > On 14 Jan 2021, at 11:00 AM, Michael B. Williams
      > <[email protected]> wrote:
      >
      >       How does ARIN analyze the response from this? Is there
      weight
      >       given only to ARIN member organizations or any
      organization? If
      >       anyone is given consideration, what is to stop people
      from
      >       lobbying individuals and other organizations to send an
      email to
      >       support their agenda? For example, I could very easily
      find 500
      >       people to respond to this email saying they do not
      support the
      >       policy. If I were a malicious actor trying to influence
      policy
      >       discussion and were to offer some sort of incentive for
      those to
      >       reply I could easily have thousands of organizations
      supporting
      >       this policy one way or another. 
      >
      > My feelings would be the majority of the weight should be
      given to
      > ARIN member organizations voices as part of the tallying
      process. If
      > that is the case, perhaps we should ask those organizations to
      include
      > their ARIN org id?
      >
      >
      > Michael - 
      >
      > The ARIN Policy Development Process specifies the petition
      appeal process,
      > and the sole criteria for a successful petition is expressions
      of support
      > from at least 25 different people from 25 different
      organizations.  
      >
      > Note that a successful petition simply means that the policy –
      without any
      > recommendation of adoption from the ARIN Advisory Council –
      will be sent to
      > the ARIN Board of Trustees for their consideration of possible
      adoption.
      >  Also note that for the purpose of determining petition
      success, ARIN staff
      > will only be counting those messages which clearly indicate
      support for the
      > petition and include both the submitters name and their
      organization. 
      >
      > The ARIN Board is on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List, and
      will see any
      > discussion of substantial merits or concerns with the policy. 
      Each trustee
      > is free to weight such input as they see fit, but at this
      point it is not a
      > numerical question – as we are not seeking a poll of support
      or opposition
      > to the policy – but rather simply whether at least 25
      organizations feel
      > (despite the ARIN AC’s decision not to recommend) that policy
      warrants
      > consideration by the ARIN Board of Trustees.  
      >
      > Thanks,
      > /John
      >
      > John Curran
      > President and CEO
      > American Registry for Internet Numbers
      >
      >
      >
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