I’d vote no. Your definition of success appears to be based on the number of complaints generated rather than on the actions taken as a result of those complaints.
I think that data on the latter would show that your “success” is much less than your current estimate. Owen > On Oct 27, 2021, at 07:22 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe I should review and resubmit my abuse-c proposal now that it is clear > that at least in other 2 RIRs is being a success? > > https://www.arin.net/vault/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_264_orig.html > > https://www.arin.net/vault/policy/proposals/2019_5.html > > > Regards, > Jordi > @jordipalet > > > > El 27/10/21 16:02, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Michael Peddemors" > <[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: > > -1, I appose. > > Anything that further waters down the requirement for a valid abuse > 'email' harms the internet as a whole. We are still waiting for more > ARIN action on invalid data, and more enforcement on the requirement to > respond to abuse reports using the current methods. > > Other methods may have barrier(s) to adoption, and put more onus on the > reporter, rather than the network operator. > > While 'adding' additional methods may on the surface seem harmless, it > will allow network operators to position themselves as preferring the > alternative form of contact, and slowly stop paying attention the > current methods. > > Not to mention, ARIN hasn't reached the level it can validate the > simpler 'phone' and 'email', or affect corrections on invalid data, > increasing the complexity of 'compliance' checking, is not something > that ARIN has the capabilities of doing effectively. > > (And my personal bone to pick, reporting inaccurate contact information > to ARIN, does not result in that information being corrected.) > > > > On 2021-10-26 1:18 p.m., ARIN wrote: >> On 21 October 2021, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted >> "ARIN-prop-303: Make Abuse Contact Useful" as a Draft Policy. >> >> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7 is below and can be found at: >> >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_7/ >> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_7/> >> >> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will >> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft >> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as >> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these >> principles are: >> >> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration >> >> * Technically Sound >> >> * Supported by the Community >> >> The PDP can be found at: >> >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ >> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/> >> >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: >> >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ >> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Hopkins >> >> Senior Policy Analyst >> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >> >> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful >> >> Problem Statement: >> >> ARIN’s process of attaching an abuse contact to resource records is of >> limited utility. The phone number is often an unmanned voicemail that >> refers the caller to a web page while the email address is commonly an >> auto-responder which does the same. Because the emails often involve >> problematic content they can get lost in filters making it hard to even >> find the URL let alone get an abuse report to go through. This is >> further exacerbated by folks who write programs to automatically >> generate unverified abuse reports and email them to the ARIN contact, >> flooding the mailbox with useless reports that no human being is >> assigned to look through. >> >> With responsible network providers, the process for dealing with network >> abuse instead usually starts with a web page. The web page provides >> instructions and may offer forms for describing the abuse and uploading >> supporting material of the nature that the service provider needs in >> order to take action. >> >> It would be helpful for ARIN to support the abuse reporting process they >> actually use. >> >> Policy statement: >> >> Strike - >> >> From 2.12 “and one valid abuse” >> >> From 3.6.2 “Abuse” >> >> Add: >> >> 2.1.2 To “organization information must include…zip code equivalent,” >> add “an abuse reporting URL” >> >> 4.2.3.7.3.2: replace “upstream Abuse and Technical POCs " with “upstream >> Technical POCs and URLs for reporting abuse” >> >> 6.5.5.3.1: replace “upstream Abuse and Technical POCs " with “upstream >> Technical POCs and URLs for reporting abuse” >> >> Timetable for implementation: Whenever >> >> Anything Else: >> >> Initial implementation suggested to replace the abuse POC with a URL >> pointing to ARIN’s display of the same POC record which was used for >> abuse reporting. Should support multiple URLs so that if desired an >> organization can specify both “mailto:somebody@here” and “tel:1234567” >> if that’s how they actually want abuse reported to them. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > > > > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. > Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com @linuxmagic > A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca > "LinuxMagic" a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 604-682-0300 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada > > This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. > Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely > those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the > individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if > partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be > considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly > prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the > original sender to inform about this communication and delete it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
