On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:52 PM, David Todd <hdt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter, not sure what parts of this might be useful, so I'll try to keep it 
> brief.  Let me know if you want more details about anything.
>
> Coming to you from Firefox running on F27 4.15.2-301.aarch64 running on a 
> Raspberry Pi 3B.  Xfce4 as GUI.
>
> Last two installs (over the last week or so) were from the F27 link to 
> aarch64 downloads, and I used the Workstation download in both cases: 
> Fedora-Workstation-27-1.6.aarch64
>
> The base 4.13 install was pretty unusable through the GUI.  System crashed 
> after initial setup as it was trying to bring up the login screen.  Power 
> cycled and it came up with the GUI screen.  GUI performance was so slow that 
> I presumed it was hung; might have just been performance, though.  Login via 
> ssh from Mac worked.   Did a dnf update to get to 4.14.18-300 and when I 
> rebooted got black screen (no login GUI); load was 0.01, so it was idle but 
> graphical not working.  I assumed that the 4.4.18 update broke X.  Installed 
> the 4.15 rpms ref'd here and got the black screen on boot.  But in all those 
> cases, could get to the system via ssh from my Mac.  Performance for routine 
> tasks similar to SUSE Leap 42.3.  On 4.15, using nmcli, was able to get WiFi 
> working routinely.  So the biggest issue was the GUI -- which is a problem if 
> you're trying to run the workstation environment.  :-)
>
> After meeting yesterday, did a fresh install of F-Workstation-27-1.6-aarch64 
> to get the initial 4.13 kernel.  Again, slow GUI; did setup; system restarted 
> GUI and brought up login screen successfully, but system hung when I logged 
> in.  Rebooted through power cycle and worked from Mac via ssh.  Transferred 
> over the 4.15 rpms and the brcm...txt file needed for WiFi (copied from site 
> Paul ref'd).  INSTALLED 4.15 DIRECTLY, AVOIDING 4.14 UPDATE.  Came up with 
> GUI on reboot.  THEN did dnf update.  Reboot, & GUI still works -- but is 
> still very slow.  Used GUI interface to set up WiFi: works. Did a "systemctl 
> set-default multi-user.service" and rebooted to get rid of GUI login screen.  
> Did a dnf groupinstall "xfce workstation".  On console, did startxfce4 and 
> got a usable GUI.  Slower than OpenSUSE Leap 42.3 but usable and stable.  
> Exited and tried Worg ... hung screen.
>
> My tentative conclusion is that the Worg stuff is unusable at this point and 
> that I'm better sticking with xfce.  I'll try a clean install of minimal and 
> then install xfce to see if that results in an even more stable and reliable 
> workstation envt.

What is Worg?

To be frank on the RPi3 you're actually better off using the 32 bit
XFCE image, aarch64 will use more memory with no real additional gain.
You can get the XFCE image directly for this purpose:
https://arm.fedoraproject.org/
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