Alypius Skinner wrote
So the real
> question is whether the optimal balance would be one of no public
> redistribution or some public redistribution.  If there were no public
> redistribution, there would be no need for a state, yet if a state 
did not
> exist, one would soon emerge  because the stateless society would be 
so
> obviously suboptimal for an economy beyond the level of the hunter 
gatherer.

[...]

I would
> certainly argue that the current level of public redistribution is 
above the
> optimum rather than below it--probably well above.  But I would not 
argue
> that the optimum is zero public redistribution.
> 
> Of course, this question of whether we should have an inherently
> redistributionist public sector is a different question than whether  
the
> public sector should micromanage the private sector.
> 

But this argument does not sound like "striking a balance between 
compassion for our fellow man and maintaining the incentives for 
temptation-prone people" as you first put it. But more like finding the 
optimal balance for the sake of our own self interest - however 
narrowly defined. Either way, I still cannot the logical argumnet why 
striking this balance is done more optimal using force, than 
voluntarily [btw: I do not disagree that something resembling states as 
we know them will emerge from a stateless society - but I do disagree 
that they necessarily must be based on cohersion - this I believe 
follows directly from your argument that some form of state is in 
everybodys (save very few) self interest].

- jacob braestrup

- jacob

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