--- Grey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"(1)you can choose to be homeless, take no jobs nor
responsibility, and peacefully beg from others who,
"if it's voluntary", can give to you (or not) with no
moral problems. (This includes living with parents or
other loved ones, from whom receipt of resources isn't
quite begging from strangers.) (2) You can become a
thief, and take other's property by force/ fraud/ in
secret -- illegally, until you get caught & punished."

As Machiavelli pointed out, no one is willing to admit
the debt that they incure to those who choose option
#1.

-jsh

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"...for no one admits that he incurs an obligation to another merely because that 
other has done him no wrong."
-Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Discourse 16.

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