Great Vignesh,
I revere your great knowledge on Indian Music and I admire for
spinning such a nice story over a small point made by Chord, even
though such a nice response was not required and sounds ir-relevant.
Sorry to say this.
I replied to your mail to point out this one:
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May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with
the
money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking
himself
as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
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These statements on ARR was not required, he is giving best music
to Tamil as well, get your ears tested and dont comment that ARR is
cheating tamil fans and he is behind money.
We are here to listen to his music and enjoy. Please do
that............ and let us do that......
Thanks and Regards,
NANDAKISHORE.S
--- In [email protected], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you
know lot about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are
you for raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do.
by limited writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over
& over highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like
from ricky pc speak for other mds & finally tapey falling into
ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with music by other
mds & as part of music lovers universally no one will deny if you
wanna speak on other mds.
>
> My mom
> who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy
Chord to
> elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed,
know
> lot about Indian Music ? She is laughing at this guy of suddenly
putting raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music
& another day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old
& new music of other mds he finds special in it only to insist
not in raghumans. To keep on insisting, this is it, this is
> not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows
> only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH
CULTURES. if you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited
knowledge on hindi music & genres].
>
> human minds are in sick arrangement when
> it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw
other
> things without realizing its existed value be it music or be
crazy writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
> if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages
& certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim
[i know
> lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure.
both
> old & new worlds music has provided us gems with
various musicians
> in many genres.
>
> dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix
of some nice hindi bhajans, marati
> abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in
sanskrit shlokas
> with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but
to any vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan
of sdburman, rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar,
Kishori Amonkar, begum parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen
> Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam,
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS,
suseela, p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas &
> ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers &
composers & musicians that consume my time.
>
> She will find
> the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She
is a fan of
> beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will
list out the
> ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing
orchestrations
> & bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to
my mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art.
Chord you dont have any other work & idling here only to create
record on posts with ill intentions & not on facts.
>
>
>
>
> Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to
trends & generations. before raghuman era people were definitely
enjoying raja's brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good
& the best songs of other tamil mds cannot understand these facts
sadly & for their limited exposure on richer side of tamil music
on traditional, classical & by films. Raja may
> not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood
to try there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in
creativity. I would ask why heros from various states dont try their
luck in bollywood. Why
> even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in
bollywood with their
> talents. It is difficult business-wise considering the style
of living,
> language & what the society demand in films in that
culture at that time.
>
> May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
> raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with
the
> money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe
even
> if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans
from
> giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
> thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
> raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking
himself
> as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
> sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to
listen
> to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
> when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood
they forgot, what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A
to Z of bollywood composers, why such bollywood composers could not
step into Hollywood ? Or why the 60s, 70s & 80s of bollywood
tunes could not impress any westerners to use them in Hollywood
movies ? Or is it possible for them to give some soul
> stirring music in south indian films. Let them find a place
2nd to raghuman. But who is
> interested from there to do music down south even they are offered
with the best deal ? Most of
> them won't be interested by their basic life-style, preference
& also due to limited
> knowledge on culture & language. Those so-called ace
bollywood composers were in a situation of could not even dream to
take their tunes to Hollywood movies or to win internationally.
Himesh is a rare case slipped into dasavataram which is not soul
stirring. Ilayaraja will do more justice
> to dasavataram.
> Let us see how raghuman is going to be successful in hollywood
movies as
> main composer? It is not that easy to satisfy that audience. He is
> going to reach 20th year & he finds hard with this creativity
to stamp
> in hollywood. He cannot easily get into that sort of music. Just for
> his bits n pieces used there he has not reached the peak in hwd.
Fans
> claim Raja could not do what raghuman did. but fans forgot the
famous old & new bollywood composers also could not do what
raghuman doing now. 1 out of
> 100 will stand out.
>
> There is a constant change. This is raghuman era of
> music regard to films. After raghumans retirement someone will be
> popular ! Friends just because your music knowledge is limited upto
that you tend to omit the certain facts & become partial. Try to
be balanced, be truthful before coming to post about musicians &
music. There are people for every good music & every talented
musician means there are many good music & many talented
musicians as far as INDIA is concerned.
>
> It is Limited to Film music about Raghuman, the only one in whole
india to make west have keen interest not just to listen, to use
& perform his tunes only for a decade now. If you take great
musicians from Carnatic & hindustani genres they are winning
their part for many decades performing & spreading its popularity
in the West without announcements & from where many westerners
are interested on our culture & learning these genres. Most
people who are listening only film music are not aware of these
things as other genres are out of glamour world. As a music lover in
broader sense, i am for raghuman when bollywood music fans &
critics want to pull him down, i am for ilayaraja when it is
kollywood for raghuman failed to maintain standards here & i will
speak for the best ever valued traditional genres (carnatic &
hindustani) when film music lovers ignore them without knowing its
values. i give due respect to all INDIAN FILM
> Composers & all INDIAN MUSICIANS who perform for different
genres. VIC.
>
> --- "Chord" purevibz@ .> wrote:
>
> Don't make such assumptions. I know a lot about Indian music.
None of these composers have the range and versatility of ARR and
have used these instruments in the specific way ARR has. Of course,
many have used solo instruments, but ARR's specialty relies not just
in the fact that he uses them, but how he uses them.
>
>
> --- "Ricky" <rickypc@> wrote:
>
> Buddy...my guess is you haven't listened to any other Indian music
then :)
> Haven't you heard Shankar Jaikishan using Accordian in Awara,
S.D.Burman using Kalyanji's 'been' in Nagin, R.D.Burman using
harmonica in Aradhana, Jatin Lalit using piano in Pehla Nasha, Vishal
using guitar in Satya, Anu Malik using violin in Baazigar, Shiv Hari
using Santoor and flute in Chandni, ....gosh the list can really go
on and on!!!
>
